Scarborough resident charged after firing gun during attempted car theft

[u/Hmfic_48]

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2026/08/19/scarborough-resident-charged-firing-gun-vehicle-theft-toronto-police/

[u/bigT689 → u/[deleted]]

Nah, rules should be changed to let civilians defend our safety and property

[u/SeeminglyUseless → u/bigT689]

Valuing property over human life is the problem most people are going to have with your position.

Personally I think if someone is engaging in violent crime (like, say, an armed robbery), then using lethal force is morally justified if you're unable to flee.

[u/bigT689 → u/SeeminglyUseless]

I value my belongings more than a criminals life, yes

[u/SeeminglyUseless → u/bigT689]

Ah so being a criminal means you don't have human rights, got it.

[u/bigT689 → u/SeeminglyUseless]

👍🏼

[u/SeeminglyUseless → u/bigT689]

So when the amnesty finishes and you become a criminal, where do you stand on the value of your own life?

[u/Airplaneondvd → u/SeeminglyUseless]

You don’t think there’s a difference between not surrendering legally purchased property, and invading someone’s home? 

[u/SeeminglyUseless → u/Airplaneondvd]

There's a huge difference, but that's kind of the point. Making sweeping judgements like "I value my stuff more than a criminal's life" is problematic when the state can make you a criminal with a pen stroke.

[u/Airplaneondvd → u/SeeminglyUseless]

There’s no way you thought that through, it’s too ridiculous. 

“The government changes laws everyday so you shouldn’t be able to stop home invaders” that’s what you just said

[u/SeeminglyUseless → u/Airplaneondvd]

You know, it does kind of come across that way.

I meant more to imply that the sweeping judgements are problematic because the barrier between you being a criminal or not is extremely thin. "And then they came for me" type shit. Othering people as "criminals" being less worthy of life is a dangerous slope is all.

[u/bigT689 → u/SeeminglyUseless]

I’ll die on my hill if it comes down to it

[u/dsac → u/bigT689]

So brave