r/canadaguns • u/theservman on • Jul 24 '26

Feets / Collection / My build NOT a new Olympic shooter, but adding to the fleet.

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Left: Steyr LP10E, Morini 162EI

Right: Walther GSP 500, Pardini SP (both 22lr)

The Walther is for me, the others I picked up from a retiring shooter who moved to the UK and already have buyers for (they're right handed - I'm not).

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u/jwin709 Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

Hey! Never bothered getting my RPAL because the thought of guns that the government is aware of me having and that I have to ask permission to take to the range every time never really appealed to me. So I'm not well versed on this.

Why do these Olympic pistols look so different from non-olympic ones?

Edit: not sure why my inexperience warrants the downvotes but okay. Go off I guess lol

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u/theservman on Jul 24 '26

You don't have to tell them that you're moving them every time - that's a commonly held misconception.

These pistols are designed to put 5 shots through the same hole at up to 50m, while being shot one handed with open sights. In addition they have ergonomic grips so that every time you pick it up you're holding it exactly the same way.

Typical pistols are designed to hit a man-sized target at about half that range while being shot two-handed.

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u/jwin709 Jul 24 '26

Okay cool but wouldn't this just be a better pistol in that case no matter what? If it can be more accurate and precise then why not have regular pistols be this way as well?

What is the trade off with these pistols? Why wouldn't you want one like this as your sidearm?

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u/theservman on Jul 24 '26

It's big, heavy, and bulky for starters. They're also ridiculously expensive.

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u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 Jul 24 '26

There are strict rules when it comes to ISSF shooting, including what aids are allowed, so competitors work around these rules by modifying things like the grip to compensate.

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u/jwin709 Jul 24 '26

Okay gotcha. So if you were allowed to have let's say a P210 as your pistol in one of these competitions would it be expected to perform better since its design doesn't adhere to ISSF standards?

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u/theservman on Jul 24 '26

You're aiming at a 5cm 10-ring, 25m away, with one hand. Your P210 wasn't built for anything close to that accuracy.

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u/jwin709 Jul 24 '26

Okay so that brings me back to wondering why we don't see people using Olympic pistols for self/home defense if they perform better.

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u/thingk89 Jul 24 '26

Home defence with a .22 caliber Olympic pistol …. In Canada… home defence. Wrong sub bud

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u/Flashy_Inspector115 Jul 25 '26

He never mentioned canada honeybun

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u/Medical_Banana1586 Jul 25 '26

We’re in Canada guns lol

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u/jwin709 Jul 24 '26

I already said I know nothing about Olympic pistols. Why would I know what caliber they are? I'm trying to learn more.

Why are you like this?

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u/CanadianBacon2-0 Jul 24 '26

Olympic calibre is .177 at 400-480fps - so it’s not a home defence gun… in fact in Canada if you don’t have legal defence insurance you shouldn’t even attempt defending yourself.
Canadians have no legal rights to defend themselves if it’s “unequal” wrap your head around that lol.
Alberta and Saskatchewan are floating the idea through a contravention / charter challenge but I have no idea where that stands at the moment/ and it might have been a ploy as part of the separation referendum.
If you’re interested in home defence get insurance with coverage over 1.5million that has consultation as part of the coverage - digital key swap lock for your safe to access ammo and an easy to remove trigger lock for your home defence gun.
All of this I don’t advise at all though and it’s really a personal decision whether you want to go that route.

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u/jwin709 Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

Okay. I understand that the caliber of these pistols dont have enough stopping power. And I think this last guys comment on caliber kinda got this conversation off track. My main question is about the ergonomics and general shape of these pistols.

I'm also not trying to get into the weeds about Canada home defense law. I'm Just generally speaking about what's best in a fire-fight. I know our self defense laws are garbage. I'm just trying to learn about the gun. I may not have been very clear in communicating that

If this is the shape of a very accurate pistol, why don't other pistols look like this but just chambered to a larger round?

I think that's my main question.

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u/CanadianBacon2-0 Jul 24 '26

Aaah gotcha - well it’s a grip designed for one handed use. Let’s say you up the calibre to 9mm you wouldn’t have much follow up opportunity compounded with a double grip is more reliable and accurate. Once you train a double grip from a chest push position you can shoot almost instinctively and it lowers your follow up time, raises * accuracy and precision dramatically.

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u/Marauder934 Jul 24 '26

Walther and Steyr are sweet

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u/shooptydoop Jul 24 '26

Jealous - one of my biggest regrets is not picking up a Walther before the ban - genuinely had such a great time shooting someone else's.

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u/theservman on Jul 24 '26

Get an exemption and buy one.

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u/Khill23 Jul 24 '26

ah yes, let me get on team Canada to shoot so I can buy a handgun or work forestry when I don't work in forestry.

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u/theservman on Jul 24 '26

The rule says you have to be training/trying. Nowhere does it say that you have to be any good. I know people who routinely score below 100 points (out of 600) who have received exemptions.

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u/Khill23 Jul 24 '26

Are you serious? That doesn't make any sense. So do lose the status if you stop training? This doesn't make any sense. Sounds like a bit of an expensive loop hole. Do you only shoot with 22lr with those fancy comp pistols?

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u/theservman on Jul 24 '26

I have one from before 2022 that's chambered for .32S&W Long.

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u/yummybunnybear Jul 25 '26

It's not a loophole if the law says you can get X by doing Y, so you do Y to get X. We gotta stop thinking that doing what the law allows is a loophole.

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u/CanadianBacon2-0 Jul 24 '26

None of that is needed for an exemption…
https://giphy.com/gifs/KBaxHrT7rkeW5ma77z

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u/GordoBlue Jul 24 '26

Saw Olympic use air pistols too, that right? Sweet guns.

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u/theservman on Jul 24 '26

Air on the left, cartridge on the right.

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u/Comfortable_Image299 Jul 26 '26

Those are all incredibly guns to shoot, your lucky to be able to test/ shoot/ enjoy them. My range has WIPL club, with several members sharing similar pistols to practice with. Absolutely a treasure to shoot, but it of my price range.

So I bought a Model 41

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u/NorthQuestDirection Jul 31 '26

FEET

Also, those grips look very cool!

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u/Sad-Stop-2401 Aug 09 '26

Just FYI. One Pardini (SP or HP) costs about 6300 CDN + taxes new.

Pardini SP, while identical to HP in frame, is default chambered in 22LR, with a 32 S&W field conversion option.

The kicker? Pardini SP in 32 S&W is not exempted from 90s 32 cal handgun ban. HP is. LOL!

Wonderful laws we have.