r/canadaguns • u/theservman on • 1d ago

Feets / Collection / My build NOT a new Olympic shooter, but adding to the fleet.

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Left: Steyr LP10E, Morini 162EI

Right: Walther GSP 500, Pardini SP (both 22lr)

The Walther is for me, the others I picked up from a retiring shooter who moved to the UK and already have buyers for (they're right handed - I'm not).

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u/jwin709 1d ago edited 1d ago

Hey! Never bothered getting my RPAL because the thought of guns that the government is aware of me having and that I have to ask permission to take to the range every time never really appealed to me. So I'm not well versed on this.

Why do these Olympic pistols look so different from non-olympic ones?

Edit: not sure why my inexperience warrants the downvotes but okay. Go off I guess lol

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u/theservman on 1d ago

You don't have to tell them that you're moving them every time - that's a commonly held misconception.

These pistols are designed to put 5 shots through the same hole at up to 50m, while being shot one handed with open sights. In addition they have ergonomic grips so that every time you pick it up you're holding it exactly the same way.

Typical pistols are designed to hit a man-sized target at about half that range while being shot two-handed.

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u/jwin709 1d ago

Okay cool but wouldn't this just be a better pistol in that case no matter what? If it can be more accurate and precise then why not have regular pistols be this way as well?

What is the trade off with these pistols? Why wouldn't you want one like this as your sidearm?

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u/theservman on 1d ago

It's big, heavy, and bulky for starters. They're also ridiculously expensive.

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u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 1d ago

There are strict rules when it comes to ISSF shooting, including what aids are allowed, so competitors work around these rules by modifying things like the grip to compensate.

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u/jwin709 1d ago

Okay gotcha. So if you were allowed to have let's say a P210 as your pistol in one of these competitions would it be expected to perform better since its design doesn't adhere to ISSF standards?

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u/theservman on 1d ago

You're aiming at a 5cm 10-ring, 25m away, with one hand. Your P210 wasn't built for anything close to that accuracy.

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u/jwin709 1d ago

Okay so that brings me back to wondering why we don't see people using Olympic pistols for self/home defense if they perform better.

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u/thingk89 1d ago

Home defence with a .22 caliber Olympic pistol …. In Canada… home defence. Wrong sub bud

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u/Flashy_Inspector115 21h ago

He never mentioned canada honeybun

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u/Medical_Banana1586 11h ago

We’re in Canada guns lol

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u/jwin709 1d ago

I already said I know nothing about Olympic pistols. Why would I know what caliber they are? I'm trying to learn more.

Why are you like this?

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u/CanadianBacon2-0 1d ago

Olympic calibre is .177 at 400-480fps - so it’s not a home defence gun… in fact in Canada if you don’t have legal defence insurance you shouldn’t even attempt defending yourself.
Canadians have no legal rights to defend themselves if it’s “unequal” wrap your head around that lol.
Alberta and Saskatchewan are floating the idea through a contravention / charter challenge but I have no idea where that stands at the moment/ and it might have been a ploy as part of the separation referendum.
If you’re interested in home defence get insurance with coverage over 1.5million that has consultation as part of the coverage - digital key swap lock for your safe to access ammo and an easy to remove trigger lock for your home defence gun.
All of this I don’t advise at all though and it’s really a personal decision whether you want to go that route.

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u/jwin709 1d ago edited 1d ago

Okay. I understand that the caliber of these pistols dont have enough stopping power. And I think this last guys comment on caliber kinda got this conversation off track. My main question is about the ergonomics and general shape of these pistols.

I'm also not trying to get into the weeds about Canada home defense law. I'm Just generally speaking about what's best in a fire-fight. I know our self defense laws are garbage. I'm just trying to learn about the gun. I may not have been very clear in communicating that

If this is the shape of a very accurate pistol, why don't other pistols look like this but just chambered to a larger round?

I think that's my main question.

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u/CanadianBacon2-0 1d ago

Aaah gotcha - well it’s a grip designed for one handed use. Let’s say you up the calibre to 9mm you wouldn’t have much follow up opportunity compounded with a double grip is more reliable and accurate. Once you train a double grip from a chest push position you can shoot almost instinctively and it lowers your follow up time, raises * accuracy and precision dramatically.

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u/Marauder934 1d ago

Walther and Steyr are sweet

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u/shooptydoop 1d ago

Jealous - one of my biggest regrets is not picking up a Walther before the ban - genuinely had such a great time shooting someone else's.

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u/theservman on 1d ago

Get an exemption and buy one.

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u/Khill23 1d ago

ah yes, let me get on team Canada to shoot so I can buy a handgun or work forestry when I don't work in forestry.

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u/theservman on 1d ago

The rule says you have to be training/trying. Nowhere does it say that you have to be any good. I know people who routinely score below 100 points (out of 600) who have received exemptions.

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u/Khill23 1d ago

Are you serious? That doesn't make any sense. So do lose the status if you stop training? This doesn't make any sense. Sounds like a bit of an expensive loop hole. Do you only shoot with 22lr with those fancy comp pistols?

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u/theservman on 1d ago

I have one from before 2022 that's chambered for .32S&W Long.

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u/BonaFideDueDiligence 1d ago

The "status" is not required to keep a handgun you acquire with the exemption. Having the exemption only matters if you want to keep acquiring more handguns. If you stop buying, you never need another letter of exemption. The exemption only gates acquisition/transfer/import of handguns.

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u/yummybunnybear 21h ago

It's not a loophole if the law says you can get X by doing Y, so you do Y to get X. We gotta stop thinking that doing what the law allows is a loophole.

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u/CanadianBacon2-0 1d ago

None of that is needed for an exemption…
https://giphy.com/gifs/KBaxHrT7rkeW5ma77z

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u/GordoBlue 1d ago

Saw Olympic use air pistols too, that right? Sweet guns.

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u/theservman on 1d ago

Air on the left, cartridge on the right.