r/canadaguns Jul 21 '26

News / Politics / Activism Some people just dont know about the OIC

Some people legitimately do not know about the OIC, ive seen countless mini 14s, and Ruger PC Carbines at gunshows this year alone

Some people just never got the email i guess

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u/Mysterious_Sleep7443 Jul 22 '26

2 hours later it's sold!

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u/ReturnOk7510 Jul 22 '26

Sold it to Mike, from Canmore.

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u/pahtee_poopa Jul 22 '26

I knew Mike from Canmore was actually a narc!

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u/thecoolernameistaken Jul 22 '26

Gross 2.8 for a junk rod you can’t take to the gunsmith

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u/GabRB26DETT Jul 22 '26

> Gross 2.8 for a junk rod you can’t take to the gunsmith

Maybe not your gunsmith

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u/MourningWood1942 Jul 23 '26

You can take it to Mike Smith from Canmore

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u/noveltyisthe Jul 22 '26

Why can’t you take it to a gunsmith?

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u/illknowitwhenireddit Jul 22 '26

Because it's prohibited with no grandfather clause like any of the previous 12.x prohibs

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u/Standard_Custard2338 Jul 22 '26

I usually report the add to admins and message the poster to inform them. I tell them for thier own welfare that they should pull the add and why. It floors me that so many people capable of legally owning a firearm are so ignorant of the law. It's a bad look on all of us when these are posted or people get charged.

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u/bosnanic Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

To be fair sometimes it's plain crazy how fast the laws can change. On December 5, 2024 out of the blue Public Safety announced a general briefing and boom 324 firearms announced prohibited effective immediately. If you just so happened to sell a prohibited rifle right after the OiC you effectively became a criminal and worse people only received emails detailing the bans from the RCMP around 8 days after.

In an effort to avoid panic buying they have made it extremely hard for legal gun owners to stay up-to-date with the laws. But yeah after 1.5 years you should know what is legal and what's not

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u/jay370gt Jul 22 '26

Which is why people shouldn’t give a shit about arbitrary changes to gun laws. The goal isn’t to stop crimes, it’s to criminalize law abiding gun owners so the Liberal government can look like they are doing something about a problem they don’t have the competency to solve.

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u/illknowitwhenireddit Jul 22 '26

The goal is complete and total disarmament, and they'll use any excuse or reason to do it.

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u/Cope180-Enjoyer Jul 22 '26

Completely disagree. The government should never be able to alter gun laws... Why? No new firearm mechanisms have been made for a 100 years. Nothing has changed.

Put the criminals in jail, easy.

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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Jul 23 '26

its even worse then that. the RCMP have prohibited random items you dont need a license for like airsoft,blank and bb guns as well as some bladed weapons over the last 20 years. the only notice being a generic bulletin on their outdated website. which i doubt someone who bought it at a surplus store 10 years before then threw in a closet is closely monitoring

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u/Canadian-AML-Guy Jul 22 '26

To he honest, if i wasn't on reddit I wouldn't know. I dont interact with gun people regularly, and never got written notice from the RCMP from the ban.

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u/Substantial-Onion-92 Jul 22 '26

It gets worse. I'm LE and I can't even begin to describe how many LEO have 0 idea what I'd prohib and what is legal. I only know because I follow here and am passionate about my own collection.

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u/swift_gilford Jul 22 '26

I've literally had my LEO friend call me during a shift because they went to a call and came across some shotguns and needed to clear them and didn't know how because they couldn't get a hold of the person they usually call for that.

Found out after apparently they don't train Ontario cops on shotguns anymore and this LEO doesn't have nor wants their PAL.

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u/Mysterious_Sleep7443 Jul 22 '26

LMFAO these children need to get a REAL job!

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u/FRANK_R-I-Z-Z-O Jul 23 '26

What area of the province was this in? The guy who did my safety class does firearms training for the opp in my area.

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u/swift_gilford Jul 23 '26

YRP. This is going back about 4 years ago when this happened. To my understanding, or at least at the time they essentially only get trained on their service weapons i.e. handgun and 'patrol carbine'

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u/FRANK_R-I-Z-Z-O Jul 23 '26

No kidding. I mean you can't train them on absolutely every single thing but training guys on common stuff that they are going to encounter in their travels and need to make safe it's probably not a terrible idea.

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u/sl33plessnites Jul 22 '26

What does LE and LEO mean ?

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u/Interesting-Intern93 Jul 22 '26

Law Enforcement LE Law Enforcement Officers LEO

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u/sl33plessnites Jul 22 '26

Ah okay thanks

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u/Fried_Chicken_ASMR Jul 22 '26

Law Enforcement / Law Enforcement Officer

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u/swift_gilford Jul 22 '26

and never got written notice from the RCMP from the ban.

and even if you did, the letter never specified all the models or provided it a link. It was just "something you have may now be prohib"

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u/Ok_Committee464 Jul 22 '26

It makes non compliance hard if everyone self reports like that.

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u/shadeffect Jul 22 '26

The admins approved the add before its posted. You sound like a rat.

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u/Cope180-Enjoyer Jul 22 '26

No need to nark on him posting his name.

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u/DougMacRay617 Jul 22 '26

Yeah this sub is full of bootlickers

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u/Important-Wait-1389 Jul 22 '26

its all the city slickers from BC , straight Karen geeks

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u/Sodas_guy Jul 22 '26

Mannnn... I don't wanna be in BC anymore 🫩 I just wanna wear nods and run around in the forest like a fairy 😭

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u/Important-Wait-1389 Jul 22 '26

i’m from BC we can frolic together >.< only thing in our way is dropping $15K+ minimum at coldharborsupply 😭😭

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u/thecoolernameistaken Jul 22 '26

Well if they’re gonna criminalize you anyway… no but fr I know it’s unpopular but let them. What’re they gonna do punish us all for the actions of a few bad apples? Oh wait

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u/WSBBroker Jul 22 '26

Yeah.. there are people getting around it . Buying and selling NR. But the gov forced people’s hands. Can’t blame em even tho I don’t think I’ll join

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u/Itchy-Interaction-61 Jul 22 '26

Why narc him out who gives a fuck

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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Jul 23 '26

yea if this was america owners would still be buying and selling them regardless and sure as hell not doing the pal verification for non-restricted transfers.

like if you go on the virginia gun owners sub its full of people saying how they plan to not follow any of the new gun control being passed there and keep on enjoying the shooting sports same as before.

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u/COBETCKNNcoyuz Jul 22 '26

What gun shows

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u/Top_Importance6216 Jul 22 '26

I wanted one of these until I found of what an actual piece of shit they are.

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u/DougMacRay617 Jul 22 '26

Yeah they were modern garbage rods, both gens

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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Jul 23 '26

half the guns that where prohibited where poorly made jam-o-matics that used to be the butt of jokes on here. but due to being OIC'd basically became martyred

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u/DougMacRay617 Jul 23 '26

If we are talking OIC thr trash you speak of didnt make up 50% it was more like 25%. Its the bans that followed to oic that made up the bulk of Canadian trash poles

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u/thecoolernameistaken Jul 22 '26

Yea but how sick is the 12.5 model though

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u/vancouverpanda Jul 22 '26

Lmao delete the post with the guys name . We are all in this together dont be a government cuck

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u/Motor_Historian2634 Jul 23 '26

I honestly think this is the rcmp trying to bait people

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '26

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u/coffeeofwar Jul 22 '26

Lamo I remember that I think it even had the baffles pictureed lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '26

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u/Sodas_guy Jul 22 '26

🤣I had no idea bout these but now I'm happy

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u/ABT653 Jul 22 '26

2.8k for a m10x lmao

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u/AndreiHoo Jul 22 '26

Hello fedpost

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u/StrangePiper1 Jul 23 '26

Yeah. I’ve seen posts for illegal stuff on gunpost. Usually a brand new account with no reviews. “Looking for machine gun parts” was one. Nice try horse cop lol

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u/Both-Employ840 Jul 22 '26

Setup

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u/StrangePiper1 Jul 23 '26

That’s my thought. Some horse cop trying to bait someone into committing a crime.

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u/Floba_Fett Jul 22 '26

What's the OIC?

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u/pr0cyn1c Jul 22 '26

The building next to the YMCA

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u/Response-Cheap Jul 22 '26

That's what he says after he finds out the firearm he's trying to sell is now prohibited.

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u/Floba_Fett Jul 22 '26

😂 Seriously though I just got my PAL not long ago so idk what an OIC is 😅

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u/Response-Cheap Jul 22 '26

Order in Council. The Canadian equivalent of an american "executive order". It's how they banned all our guns. Rather than putting it to a vote and passing legislation, they essentially wrote a list of guns on the back of a napkin and Trudeau signed it. Job done. That's an OIC.

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u/gnu_gai Jul 22 '26

To add onto the other reply: an Order in Council is essentially the Prime Minister simply declaring a law on behalf of the King; and by convention the power was only used in genuine public emergencies such as war time (for example during WW1 persons of "enemy nationality" were sent to internment camps via OiC). Orders in Council are subject to judicial review, and so can be overturned once the SCC gets around to it

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u/Whispersfine Jul 22 '26

It’s too late, naetwon

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u/Motor_Historian2634 Jul 23 '26

Either they dont know or its an RCMP plant

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u/anonyme450 Jul 22 '26

Wait you're in Midland, too? Hell yeah.

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u/Major-Performance999 Jul 28 '26

Trash gun, would be better off with a bolt action 22mag

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u/kinghalifax902 Jul 23 '26

Hope you informed him

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u/ThePoeticJester Jul 22 '26

Oh they know, had a guy at the range with a VZ61, told him those were banned last year.

He played the "dont understand, no english" card before I told him: "hey man, you get caught its your ass and your license so you do what you want" Instantly packed it away and hid the mags/ammo

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u/cautiouslyathrowaway Jul 23 '26

It costs a grand total of nothing to mind your own business

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u/ThePoeticJester Jul 23 '26

Its a range where often CBSA and cops are at. Its better I say something than to let him get busted by them, or even just the care taker who would ban them..

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u/Master-Editor2668 Jul 25 '26

Who cares  Come here to post and bitch get a life

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u/Interesting-Intern93 Jul 22 '26

I do Wonder if Law Enforcement Officers are allowed to take there Glock 9mm department issued to a Membership / Range. Honestly i feel they do not get enough Range Time now in Canada. Would like to hear from some ontario LEO.

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u/Ok-Factor30 Jul 22 '26

Yes, they're allowed

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u/Status_Ticket5044 Jul 22 '26

I hope so. Not sure why the down votes. If he goes to a membership range, where he is an actual memner, it means he's got a RPAL, which means he is not ignorant of current firearm law and is getting reps with his weapon. Win-win?

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u/Motor_Historian2634 Jul 23 '26

To be fair we can still shoot our handguns so they probably can too. I feel like after the OIC'S though, ranges should ban them from being able to practice. shitty to penalize the individual officers because most of them i talk to at the range are nothing but kind. but then again they penalized us for the actions of a few so they reap what they sew.

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u/thecoolernameistaken Jul 22 '26

Gun stays at work