r/canadaguns • u/Wide-Ship-9409 • 3d ago
Feets / Collection / My build Valtro PM-5 Shotgun
Hi fellas!
This is my original Italian Valtro PM-5 box magazine fed 12 gauge pump shotgun.
It was initially produced by Valtro in the 80s, and Brixia continued production after Valtro went down.
The magazine takes 7 shells, and are quite expensive to source.
It was used by various police and military units, and French Navy is still keeping them in service.
Overall, I love the pistol grip and fixed stock, and the fact that it is a reliable mag-fed shotgun. The 14” barrel makes it quite maneuverable and gives it a cool look. Some people do not like the length of pull though, which I don’t mind.
Note: Trigger lock was temporarily removed for pictures; it is on it at all times.
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u/therowdyirishman 3d ago
Nice! That's a mean looking gauge! The long stock and mag almost gives it 30rnd FAL aesthetics. Have you grouped it with slugs before? I assume the porting was custom work you had done? I swapped out my 14in Shockwave build for a 1301T. I still miss the short pump though, something so cool about compact shotguns.
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u/Wide-Ship-9409 3d ago
The porting is actually factory original! No changes have been made to this shotgun after purchase.
I recently inherited it so can’t share experience with grouping slugs yet. It was kept in storage for a very long time with no use, so I can’t wait to get the dust/rust off of it!
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u/nammaheff 3d ago
Why would it matter if you have a trigger lock on it or not? Cool shotgun btw
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u/Wide-Ship-9409 3d ago
I posted my long range rifle the other day and someone thought that it was a good idea to warn me about it… and they removed the comment after. I just put the note there to avoid Karen-like comments hahah
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u/NIBLZ_HAMSTR 3d ago
Nice lookin boomstick.... have you had any issues with feeding, etc? I've heard that if you get a mag-fed shotgun, you should get some peanut butter too, cause youre gonna have a fuck ton of jam. Lol
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u/GreenMan165 2d ago
I had a Norinco mag fed 870 clone that was perfectly reliable and it was Chinese, so I don't think they're inherantly unreliable. Some models are probably a bit more flawed than others.
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u/PifPifPass 2d ago
Mine is reliable after putting some tape on the magazine feed lips to help retention. The metal mags need some work but the poly ones are great.
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u/Wide-Ship-9409 3d ago
Thank you! Haven’t tried it yet but the previous owner said that he had no issues with cycling.
I also don’t dig mag fed shotguns in general, but I guess pump action instead of semi-auto leaves less room for peanut butter jam combo lol
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u/Geralt-of-Rivai 3d ago
I rock the Iron Horse Sentry and it's honestly been a blast, never once had any problems with feeding
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u/Murray3-Dvideos 3d ago
There probably the most reliable mag fed pump shotgun on the planet. I own 2 ,been using them for 3 gun since like 2015.
Mine has only jammed when either: 1)the feed lips been bent from dropping the mag during speed loads. 2) Appearently while feeding some buskshot last weekend, much to my surprise and disappointment.
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u/NIBLZ_HAMSTR 3d ago
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u/Murray3-Dvideos 3d ago
You didnt mess out, these were one the worst shotguns to ever grace the Canadian market.
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u/NIBLZ_HAMSTR 3d ago
Hahaha yeah... im not terribly surprised.
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u/Wide-Ship-9409 3d ago
Maybe you can check out Mossberg 590RM - it’s a similar pump shotgun with a mag design!
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u/NIBLZ_HAMSTR 3d ago
My first thought when I held it was "I could blow my fingers off if im not careful.. "
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u/Geralt-of-Rivai 3d ago
Really nice. Are these pretty rare in Canada? What do they usually go for?
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u/loormi 3d ago
Damn that's cool never seen one before.
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u/Wide-Ship-9409 3d ago
Thank you! Neither did I until I was given this lol
I am not certain how rare they are in Canada, but they at least don’t seem to be common.
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u/loormi 3d ago
Im trying to find one for sale right now lmao
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u/Wide-Ship-9409 3d ago
Lol best of luck! It might be easier to find a Brixia version btw. I don’t think they will be too expensive (I hope)!
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u/EmailMeBaby 3d ago
Are you able to cycle the action when the mag is in and you dont have any shells in it? Mine seems to always get caught on the mag follower. Not that it really matters when you have shells in it.
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u/Wide-Ship-9409 3d ago
Yes, it actually does cycle when the mag is in with no shells! And this action is desperate for some good lube session, so I feel like it might be the mag follower as you said.
It may sound stupid, but have you tried putting a touch of oil at the very back of the follower?
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u/thecoolernameistaken 3d ago
How’s the mag availability? And reliability ?
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u/Wide-Ship-9409 3d ago
Magazines are reliable but rare and expensive; saw some sold around $150-200.
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u/FedInformant 3d ago
What pack?
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u/Wide-Ship-9409 3d ago
A plate carrier bag with straps from AliExpress. It would be a moderate price if you were to order from Canada but it was relatively expensive for AliExpress (CAD 125) - so the quality feels like I would pay 300 for it in Canada.
For the love of ungatekeeping, I am sharing the link below. I can also share the full list of survival gear content of the bag if people are interested:
500D Nylon Hunting Backpack Molle Plate Carrier Bag Light Weight Hiking Rucksack Compatible with Vest Sports Backpack
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u/GiveElaRifleShields 14h ago
Cool gun, there are similar looking hunt group ones at tenda, I wanna get the semi version and see if I can compete with Smuckers
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u/ExplosiveFetusActual 3d ago
Trigger lock is on it at all times? Why would you mention that? Trigger locks aren't even required under some storage circumstances, and nobody cares if you take it off to take pictures.
Do you take the trigger lock off to shoot it? How well do the mags feed? I'm always curious about how well they feed, especially after being loaded and stored for long periods of time. I've also seen someone modify Turkish shotgun mags to work in these guns, which might be a cheaper way to get some if you're handy.
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u/Wide-Ship-9409 3d ago
I fully agree! Someone gave me shit about not having a trigger lock on my posted pictures, so I just added to note to avoid that lol
I still haven’t had a chance to try it out yet, but the previous owner praised how well it cycled. I did not know about modifying other mags to fit this - will definitely look into it, thank you!!




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u/Psychological-Bee694 3d ago
Something you dont see everyday.Neat shotgun.