r/canadaguns 7d ago

Feets / Collection / My build My First Gun FN 502 Tactical New RPAL

My First Gun, FN 502 Tactical. Never shot a firearm in my life, but this is my first gun for training purposes, just imported from the USA (Arizona) via IRG. The extended magazines are pinned to 10. It came very oily so had to wipe it thoroughly with paper towels. The enclosed reflex micro red dot (probably used the wrong screws) and tactical light are add-ons from Amazon. I got my RPAL just for this.

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u/rastamasta45 7d ago

BC exemption šŸ‘€?

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u/sorean_4 7d ago

Now I have to move to BC to buy one and then back to Alberta?

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u/DougMacRay617 7d ago

You can get a big boy handgun if you live in Alberta with a black badge and IPSC exemption

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u/sorean_4 7d ago

I can’t find anything on IPSC exemption in Alberta. Do you have a link?

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u/number75 7d ago edited 7d ago

it's not really an exemption so much as it is a loophole. If I understand it correctly, a firearms retail company (P3 Shooting Specialties) buys the handgun on your behalf if you're an IPSC competitor or have signed up for a black badge in Alberta, and then transfers it to you as "borrowing or renting". You don't actually own it like with the .22 Olympic Exemption, as it is registered to them as the owner. However, they do say they'll transfer it to you once it's legal to do so. However, it's about as good as it gets with our current system, and I do hope we see it expand. It'd certainly finally convince me to go for a black badge.

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u/Curious_Joe2020 7d ago

Or they change the regulations overnight or via OIC and you never see the gun again. Also that can't be grandfathered since you were never registered as the owner. How do you get a permanent ATT without a registration certificate? No different than renting from a range with a membership. The whole point is to keep it at home. There is in fact an Alberta 22LR Olympic exemption that is open ended not model and make specific like in BC. I don't know the process details.

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u/NocturnalOS 7d ago

Wait what?

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u/masterboatman 7d ago

.22LR handgun exemption

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u/NocturnalOS 7d ago

Had no idea this was a thing. Did some quick reading and seems a bit more difficult for Ontario. Silly that we have to jump through these hoops.

My RPAL has basically collected dust since I acquired it. I did my course shortly before the freeze and my license didn’t show up in time.

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u/masterboatman 7d ago

I feel you. I’m in Ontario too, but I had a friend get granted the exemption and he said they asked that you compete in a sanctioned match, so that’s my plan for November! I’ve also heard Ontario is stricter with the models of pistols you can get compared to BC.

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u/itsmeAG32 7d ago

I’m in Ontario aswell an want to do the same, let me know how it goes

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u/717Luxx 7d ago

pretty much need to be part of a club that runs ipsc matches, and get your black badge iirc. which can be a difficult course to book.

but from there it's like, go to the league nights once in a while, practice, show up for a few matches. continue to practice.

unfortunately 22 only for now. the guys at my club are lobbying to include 9mm, I don't know if thats gonna happen tho.

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u/NocturnalOS 7d ago

Good luck! Definitely gonna take a good look at it and see if I can try as well.

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u/Doc_Bethune 7d ago

How do you compete without already owning a handgun? Seems like a catch 22

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u/masterboatman 7d ago

Yea it is a bit of a catch 22 but you can rent them. My range lends them out for events. I also have a friend who lets me borrow his.

Showing you’re practicing for the Olympic disciplines also satisfies the requirement

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u/ScorpionRox 7d ago

I was lucky enough to get my Glock 17 gen4 before the freeze. Haven't had a chance to even use it yet though.

Near impossible it seems to get a club membership. Even with the support of my brother's father-in-law. Who is still an active member in Peterborough, as was kinda our (myself, brother and sister-in-law) to get a membership.

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u/oceanic84 7d ago

Why are memberships held up? Is this club specific or nationwide?

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u/ScorpionRox 7d ago

Not sure. Have tried a few different locations. Both full memberships and "casual" memberships. Make an application, and never heard from any of them.

A real annoyance when it costs money up front to apply.

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u/shooptydoop 3d ago

A lot of the older established clubs have been full even pre-covid. I've always lucked out and haven't had to join waiting lists but you might have luck if you're not too picky and find some of the newer ranges. FOC in Ajax has an indoor range that is relatively new and might be accepting members? Assuming you're on the east end.

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u/ScorpionRox 3d ago

Port Perry, but their prices are insane compared to most others.

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u/Khmerog1 6d ago

Yes. I also wish I bought a Glock instead of a Masada.. Masada shoots well but the Glock has so many toys to add on.

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u/imjonjoncanada 6d ago

I got my Glock because I wanted to be be cool lol. But you're right, they're the Harley Davidson of guns, EVERYONE has one so the aftermarket accessories are cheap and plentiful. Not close to my best pistol, but I have a fucking case FULL of conversion barrels, springs, etc.

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u/SmarterFuture1320 6d ago

Have you tried Target Sports

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u/Lagtense 7d ago

That’s probably the coolest 22 handgun out there, good choice. I have akimbo 509T and love em

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u/itsmeAG32 7d ago

Nice gun man I’m jealous

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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw 7d ago

after almost 5 long years its good to see new handgun posts on here again.

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u/imjonjoncanada 6d ago

Was thinking the same thing

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u/K0bra_Ka1 7d ago

How much?

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u/Comfortable_Image299 7d ago

Please breakdown the cost for the .22LR with the additional fees and shipping, would love to know.

Posting anonymously in case my wife sees this.

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 7d ago

I’ll chime in since I just got my exempted Ruger MK4 here in BC. The gun and the application and import fees (IRUNGUNS) was 469USD (657.42CAD) before tax (369$ for the gun, 100$ in application fees), with an extra 67$ CAD in shipping with tax. So close to 880$ or so for the whole gambit. A bit pricey but, I’m satisfied as hell with my purchase personally and will have a lot of fun with it

As an aside too, the membership to the BCTSA (who issue the exemptions) was yearly 50$. So the 50$ can be broken up into how many exemptions you wish to file for in that year’s span

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u/Comfortable_Image299 7d ago

Thanks. I have my exemption, bought a mint '80s Model 41 for about $1k locally. Wanted to get sitting/ training right away. Now the itch is back...

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u/MrWrock 7d ago

Would also like to know how much

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 7d ago

I broke the price down as a reply above

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u/MrWrock 7d ago

Thanks, appreciate it. Any chance you shoot on the island?

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 7d ago

I do yes! Vancouver Islander through and through

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u/FroBro243 7d ago

Nice pick! I've got a few pistols, but no FNs. How much was your total for the firearm and import fees? I have been tossing around getting my exemption, just haven't pulled the trigger on it yet until I decide what I want to get.

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u/Curious_Joe2020 7d ago edited 7d ago

USD 465 for the gun, Export Fee 60, 100 Handgun Permit Application Fee with Global Affairs Canada NEXCOL, then you pay GST and shipping in Canadian. Duty and GST 5%, and shipping is around 40 with Canada Post, so add another 145 CAD. Total Amount : USD 737 + 145 CAD, and no PST. Also bought some extra magazines so let's say around 1k CAD total. The Glock 44 is the worst because you have to get the Canadian compliant barrel installed so basically paying double.

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u/FroBro243 7d ago

Hmh not as bad as I expected. RDS still has them listed for around 750$. I appreciate the breakdown and information. Also, how long after you submitted the request did you receive the letter?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 7d ago

They don't have any handguns in stock. Try ordering a Glock 44 from RDS and see what happens...nothing. Glock 44 V doesn't even exist. The issue isn't the price but the fact that they don't exist in Canada, not new inventory anyway. Letter takes about a week or less. Sometimes it can also be a few weeks if there is a delay.

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u/FroBro243 7d ago

Absolutely. I knew RDSC wouldn't sell any but it was more of a comparison as to how bad the price adjustment was going to be. 30-40% was about what I expected. Again thanks for the info!

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u/oceanic84 7d ago

Any idea what the rules are in QC?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 3d ago

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u/FroBro243 3d ago

Thanks! I'm pressuring my buddies to get their permit and get a pistol. They all missed the train previously, and have been apprehensive about this new permit as they fear the cost. I think this will definitely help them make an informed decision!

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u/Hisoka365 2d ago

Thanks for the he breakdown. It looks like it's more now? When did you purchase this?

Did you get any upgrades like the Taylor tactical recoil Spring and guide rod?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 2d ago

No upgrades and purchased about two months ago.

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u/number75 7d ago

Congratulations! I managed to get a TX22 Competition using a .22lr exemption. it might not be a center fire but it's definitely better to have a handgun in the collection, than no handgun at all.

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u/Curious_Joe2020 7d ago

Nice! The thing is centerfire would be too expensive to shoot hundreds of rounds with at the range. With 22LR you can literally shoot thousands of rounds a year without worrying about cost.

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u/number75 7d ago

I agree, and I feel the TX22 would be something I'd want to own even if I could get a center fire handgun. it certainly feels nice in the hand.

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u/looloopklopm 4d ago

9mm is sooooooo cheap, what do you mean? Main reason I want a handgun.

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u/Thatsoverrated 7d ago

Sk requires you to be active for 5/6months, meanwhile you got an exemption without anything lol.

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u/Curious_Joe2020 7d ago

Each province is different. AB for example issues 22LR blanket exemption letters not model or make specific.

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u/challengergaren 7d ago edited 7d ago

Nice. I just ordered my 502 in fde from irunguns just the other day. Excited for it to show up

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u/Elbro_16 7d ago

I’m waiting for my transfer to go through from irunguns, also fde

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u/Comfortable_Image299 7d ago

Total cost to your door?

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u/challengergaren 7d ago

I haven't paid for the whole thing yet just the gun and handgun permit which was $900. Have to wait till it's in canada to pay the tax and shipping.

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u/thecoolernameistaken 7d ago

How does that work? Off their site or did you have another source and they buy it for you?

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u/challengergaren 7d ago

I bought it off their us site from their arizona warehouse and having it imported

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u/thecoolernameistaken 7d ago

Appreciate it bud

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 7d ago

Off the USA site for IRUNGUNS. You’ll forward your exemption to a lady at the US store name Carolyn, and add a ā€œhandgun application feeā€ to the cart. In order for them to ship the full firearm, the exemption must be in their possession. The rest is pretty seamless as they handle the import and everything.

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u/dj_kaled_anotha1 7d ago

Congrats man enjoy

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u/3DGunWorks Business Account 7d ago

Congrats! We gotta keep pumping up the numbers

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u/Curious_Joe2020 7d ago

We will I got like 2 more.

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u/K0bra_Ka1 7d ago

Gotta get the process started for this

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u/Top-Marionberry2739 7d ago

Okay..... how? Theres a program as a loaner here in alberta for competition. But never heard of actually owning it

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 7d ago

Alberta’s exemption is apparently one of the easiest for calibers other than .22. I’m in BC and my exemption took less than a month. Just about to get my pistol today from the post office actually and make a post later haha

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u/PlantainAcceptable62 7d ago

What gun club?

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 7d ago

You only have to be a member of BCTSA to get an exemption. I signed up for the first time and filed my exemption the very next day. You do have to be a member of ANY gun club in BC to get actually have a restricted transferred however (same rule in every province except Ontario and one of the territories)

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u/Eyeronick 7d ago

How do you get a non-22 exemption? Other than trapper or other remote area work. I haven't heard about this. I get the process here for 22 but I haven't heard about larger calibers.

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 7d ago

BC’s .22 exemption doesn’t require a coach, whereas if you can get a coach, they can sign the exemption form as well to authorize an exemption for a higher caliber

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u/Eyeronick 7d ago

Like get a coach in AB? I'll have to look around once I get my pistol.

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 7d ago

Alberta’s I’m not 100% familiar with, but I heard they were even granting exemptions from thehuntinggearguy for things possibly like IPSC and such, and higher calibers much easier

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u/Eyeronick 7d ago

Well, that is an avenue worth pursuing. I'm going to have to do some research and reach out to some people to see if this is a realistic option. Thanks for the intel!

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 7d ago

No worries at all! BC’s is very easy and I’ve heard Alberta’s is too. And having gone through BC’s, there’s no way Alberta’s is more complicated haha

Good luck and I hope it works out!

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u/Bambam4040 7d ago

Can you tell me how u got exemption and what rang did u join?

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 7d ago

Absolutely, I’ll DM you the process!

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u/thecoolernameistaken 7d ago

I got you bruh

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u/Eyeronick 7d ago

Who runs the loaner program?

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u/Top-Marionberry2739 7d ago

KEN HUM (P3 Shooting Specialties) he's also a BB instructor. i used to do ipsc but haven't run in a long time as i moved to prs

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u/Eyeronick 7d ago

Interesting, I'll have to look into it. Thank you!

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u/Top-Marionberry2739 7d ago

Got a few handgun for comps but i want to get a new handgun. But since its a loaner im skipping it. Good for people who cant own handguns tho. Its like $150 per year for the loaner but im unsure about the exact pricing. You get to keep it at home too i believe

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u/Eyeronick 7d ago

For that price, no problem. I don't have any at the moment.

Reading into it on his website. I've started the 22 process here in AB but this is also a good avenue for the bigger calibers. Appreciate the lead.

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u/Top-Marionberry2739 7d ago

No problem. He's legit, i buy reloading stuff for ipsc and 3gun comp from the feller. Nice guy. But i moved up to long range stuff already and invested $$$ already. Hope to get back on ipsc again and 3 gun comps.

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u/Eyeronick 7d ago

Sounds super fun. I reload for rifle and previously PCC but never owned a pistol. I never applied for my rpal, when I got my license in 2016, silly me. I'll reach out and see what he has to say, IPSC interests me a lot, always looked super fun. I watched a few matches at my club but they don't do rentals.

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u/Tanker2025 7d ago

So how did they ship from U.S site to Canada store ? All in Parts ?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 7d ago

It came in its case in original packaging. I think they ship as a single unit in original packaging from their USA warehouse to their Alberta warehouse and then with Canada Post to the customer. Definitely not in parts.

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u/Flaky_Process_3780 7d ago

Where'd you buy it

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u/Curious_Joe2020 7d ago

IRUNGUNS US store online.

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u/Flaky_Process_3780 7d ago

Nice how was the process like to get one across the border ?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 7d ago

IRG does all that so you just put the order and they do the rest. Eventually it arrives by Canada Post. You just need the exemption letter before the purchase is submitted and for the transfer.

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u/oceanic84 7d ago

How is there an exemption for .22 LR handguns?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 7d ago

Because not everything you hear in the mainstream media is true. There was never a handgun ban for 22LR, just more restrictive rules which vary greatly by province.

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u/imjonjoncanada 6d ago

The title of this post without reading the explanation is torturous for so many people I bet. I mean technically, my first seven firearms were four pistols, two ARs and a Type 81, but that was 15 years ago. I'm pumped for you, but at this point, this post is traumatic for a lot of "newer" RPAL holders hahaha. Also, I know you're not complaining, but saying that it came "very oily" as a "3 star review" type comment is savage hahaha. Honestly though, good for you. Go put some rounds though it, enjoy it.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago edited 7d ago

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 7d ago

The importer-exporter IRUNGUNS has a USA site, and as long as you have an exemption for a certain handgun, you can order it off there and have it imported

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u/DatHoneyBadger 7d ago

I just initiate the process with IRG, submitted my exemption and paid for. How long did it take for you to get it once purchased on the online store?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 7d ago

I would say about 2 months and Canada Post alone takes like 2 weeks once in Canada.

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u/Equivalent-Shoe-1652 7d ago

Jumping on this asap. How does it shoot? I've got mixed reviews. Planning on getting this and the taurus.

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u/Status_Ticket5044 7d ago

"Congratulations", he said, bitterly.

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u/Needler_1996 7d ago

Beautiful pistol and thanks for sharing! Is the exemption east to acquire in Ontario? I’d love a .22 to train with and enjoy

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u/darkvaider123 7d ago

Try the CZ!

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u/PantherActual 6d ago

How do i get this for Ontario ?

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u/mustafazoom 6d ago

Are the mags pinned by manufacturer or by irg with rivet

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u/Curious_Joe2020 6d ago

IRG pins everything. With rivet yes.

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u/imjonjoncanada 6d ago

I was lucky enough to be able to purchase 7 different pistols many years ago, and I always kinda joke about my S&W M&P .22 that I bought for my wife to shoot. Seeing this post makes me really appreciate what I have. This country has lost the plot

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u/Cricket-Legal 6d ago

Wait what? How did u get it bro. I live in QC. How can I buy one

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u/throwaway12-ffs 5d ago

I thought Canadians couldn't have handgun s. How did you get ane xemption?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 5d ago

They can for 22LR only target shooting training Olympic 25m discipline exemption. Each province has different rules for the exemption.

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u/Frequent_Shop5047 5d ago

What's the actual process people are using to get this exemption in Canada?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 5d ago

You fill out a form with the provincial sports target shooting association, get the exemption letter via email and then submit it to buy/import and transfer the handgun for 22LR only. It's an intention to train for 25m pistol discipline.

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u/AdeptArt 5d ago

This is only true in BC fyi. In some other provinces (not sure about AB) it's different because their provincial target shooting association requires you to have record of competition.

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u/therowdyirishman 5d ago

Nice! I have an FN 509T so I'm very interested in obtaining a 502 to function as a trainer. Did you have any issues with the side cycling due to the added weight of the optic?

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u/CheesecakeEasy8952 5d ago

I’m sure my handguns would move over and make space for a CZ TS3

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u/Familiar-Ad9021 5d ago

Looll fir quebec to have that fackkkk

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u/Curious_Joe2020 3d ago

This is how much the FN 502 Tactical cost since people keep asking. Add another 140 CAD or so for GST, Duty, and Canada Post parcel shipping. Takes about 2 months to get it from the order date.

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u/GordoBlue 7d ago

Tell us how! Congrats. Expensive ammo

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u/GokuBlank 7d ago

It is a .22LR pistol .....

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u/Tricky-Locksmith-455 7d ago

Still shoots still deals damage…

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u/GokuBlank 7d ago

Oh I'm not knocking the .22lr round. I was just disputing that it's expensive to shoot.

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u/MrWrock 7d ago

Expensive for 22lr or you shooting something cheaper?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 7d ago

Like around 100 bucks for 1000 rounds. Definitely not expensive ammo.

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u/GordoBlue 7d ago

Oooo nice. Nm. I thought it was 57!

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u/Jewemygg 7d ago

Hey man, I texted you

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u/Expensive_Blood_2800 6d ago

Can you remove the pins out?

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u/circaa90 7d ago

How did you get this thought all handguns were prohibited now

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u/Curious_Joe2020 7d ago

It's Restricted not prohibited. Don't listen to what you see in the mainstream media. You just need an exemption letter from a provincial or national sports target shooting association. Each province has different requirements.

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u/Dry_Diet9916 7d ago

Sweet. is 22lr good for home defence?

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u/Gonky69 7d ago

I hate seeing handguns be bought after the freeze lol like christ

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u/BaZukaM 7d ago

Fuck off.

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u/dgod40 7d ago

Why? Are you against handguns? or are you annoyed that we have to go through these absolutely moronic procedures to get handguns?

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u/thecoolernameistaken 7d ago

Sarcasm btw

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u/dgod40 7d ago

I see it now... I didn't see the "lol"

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u/MrWrock 7d ago

For me it's the latter, like... Fuck you I want one.Ā 

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u/Gonky69 7d ago

What mr wock said. Sitting here cucked with a 7.62x25 hand cannon

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u/Gonky69 7d ago

Annoyed that most Rpal holders cant fucking buy em. I only was able to get a tokarev before the freeze. Hot topic. Rpal is a joke and should just be ā€œpalā€

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u/Curious_Joe2020 7d ago

There was never a "freeze" for 22LR. It's just a lack of inventory and administrative restrictions. Ironically most of the 22LR rifles are prohibited but not the handguns.