r/canadaguns Jul 17 '26

Feets / Collection / My build My First Gun FN 502 Tactical New RPAL

My First Gun, FN 502 Tactical. Never shot a firearm in my life, but this is my first gun for training purposes, just imported from the USA (Arizona) via IRG. The extended magazines are pinned to 10. It came very oily so had to wipe it thoroughly with paper towels. The enclosed reflex micro red dot (probably used the wrong screws) and tactical light are add-ons from Amazon. I got my RPAL just for this.

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u/rastamasta45 Jul 17 '26

BC exemption šŸ‘€?

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u/sorean_4 Jul 17 '26

Now I have to move to BC to buy one and then back to Alberta?

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u/DougMacRay617 Jul 17 '26

You can get a big boy handgun if you live in Alberta with a black badge and IPSC exemption

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u/sorean_4 Jul 17 '26

I can’t find anything on IPSC exemption in Alberta. Do you have a link?

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u/number75 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

it's not really an exemption so much as it is a loophole. If I understand it correctly, a firearms retail company (P3 Shooting Specialties) buys the handgun on your behalf if you're an IPSC competitor or have signed up for a black badge in Alberta, and then transfers it to you as "borrowing or renting". You don't actually own it like with the .22 Olympic Exemption, as it is registered to them as the owner. However, they do say they'll transfer it to you once it's legal to do so. However, it's about as good as it gets with our current system, and I do hope we see it expand. It'd certainly finally convince me to go for a black badge.

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 17 '26

Or they change the regulations overnight or via OIC and you never see the gun again. Also that can't be grandfathered since you were never registered as the owner. How do you get a permanent ATT without a registration certificate? No different than renting from a range with a membership. The whole point is to keep it at home. There is in fact an Alberta 22LR Olympic exemption that is open ended not model and make specific like in BC. I don't know the process details.

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u/NocturnalOS Jul 17 '26

Wait what?

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u/masterboatman Jul 17 '26

.22LR handgun exemption

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u/NocturnalOS Jul 17 '26

Had no idea this was a thing. Did some quick reading and seems a bit more difficult for Ontario. Silly that we have to jump through these hoops.

My RPAL has basically collected dust since I acquired it. I did my course shortly before the freeze and my license didn’t show up in time.

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u/masterboatman Jul 17 '26

I feel you. I’m in Ontario too, but I had a friend get granted the exemption and he said they asked that you compete in a sanctioned match, so that’s my plan for November! I’ve also heard Ontario is stricter with the models of pistols you can get compared to BC.

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u/itsmeAG32 Jul 17 '26

I’m in Ontario aswell an want to do the same, let me know how it goes

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u/717Luxx Jul 17 '26

pretty much need to be part of a club that runs ipsc matches, and get your black badge iirc. which can be a difficult course to book.

but from there it's like, go to the league nights once in a while, practice, show up for a few matches. continue to practice.

unfortunately 22 only for now. the guys at my club are lobbying to include 9mm, I don't know if thats gonna happen tho.

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u/NocturnalOS Jul 17 '26

Good luck! Definitely gonna take a good look at it and see if I can try as well.

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u/Doc_Bethune Jul 18 '26

How do you compete without already owning a handgun? Seems like a catch 22

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u/masterboatman Jul 18 '26

Yea it is a bit of a catch 22 but you can rent them. My range lends them out for events. I also have a friend who lets me borrow his.

Showing you’re practicing for the Olympic disciplines also satisfies the requirement

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u/ScorpionRox Jul 17 '26

I was lucky enough to get my Glock 17 gen4 before the freeze. Haven't had a chance to even use it yet though.

Near impossible it seems to get a club membership. Even with the support of my brother's father-in-law. Who is still an active member in Peterborough, as was kinda our (myself, brother and sister-in-law) to get a membership.

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u/oceanic84 Jul 17 '26

Why are memberships held up? Is this club specific or nationwide?

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u/ScorpionRox Jul 18 '26

Not sure. Have tried a few different locations. Both full memberships and "casual" memberships. Make an application, and never heard from any of them.

A real annoyance when it costs money up front to apply.

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u/shooptydoop Jul 21 '26

A lot of the older established clubs have been full even pre-covid. I've always lucked out and haven't had to join waiting lists but you might have luck if you're not too picky and find some of the newer ranges. FOC in Ajax has an indoor range that is relatively new and might be accepting members? Assuming you're on the east end.

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u/ScorpionRox Jul 21 '26

Port Perry, but their prices are insane compared to most others.

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u/imjonjoncanada Jul 18 '26

I got my Glock because I wanted to be be cool lol. But you're right, they're the Harley Davidson of guns, EVERYONE has one so the aftermarket accessories are cheap and plentiful. Not close to my best pistol, but I have a fucking case FULL of conversion barrels, springs, etc.

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u/imjonjoncanada Aug 09 '26

I'm not sure, but I think all pistol parts are pretty much off market. Prohibit rifle actions are obviously not available, but furniture is. Accessories and uppers are firearms and a lot of it fits unrestricted firearms.

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u/SmarterFuture1320 Jul 18 '26

Have you tried Target Sports

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u/Lagtense Jul 17 '26

That’s probably the coolest 22 handgun out there, good choice. I have akimbo 509T and love em

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u/itsmeAG32 Jul 17 '26

Nice gun man I’m jealous

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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Jul 17 '26

after almost 5 long years its good to see new handgun posts on here again.

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u/imjonjoncanada Jul 18 '26

Was thinking the same thing

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u/K0bra_Ka1 Jul 17 '26

How much?

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u/Comfortable_Image299 Jul 17 '26

Please breakdown the cost for the .22LR with the additional fees and shipping, would love to know.

Posting anonymously in case my wife sees this.

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 Jul 17 '26

I’ll chime in since I just got my exempted Ruger MK4 here in BC. The gun and the application and import fees (IRUNGUNS) was 469USD (657.42CAD) before tax (369$ for the gun, 100$ in application fees), with an extra 67$ CAD in shipping with tax. So close to 880$ or so for the whole gambit. A bit pricey but, I’m satisfied as hell with my purchase personally and will have a lot of fun with it

As an aside too, the membership to the BCTSA (who issue the exemptions) was yearly 50$. So the 50$ can be broken up into how many exemptions you wish to file for in that year’s span

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u/Comfortable_Image299 Jul 17 '26

Thanks. I have my exemption, bought a mint '80s Model 41 for about $1k locally. Wanted to get sitting/ training right away. Now the itch is back...

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u/MrWrock Jul 17 '26

Would also like to know how much

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 Jul 17 '26

I broke the price down as a reply above

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u/MrWrock Jul 17 '26

Thanks, appreciate it. Any chance you shoot on the island?

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 Jul 17 '26

I do yes! Vancouver Islander through and through

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u/FroBro243 Jul 17 '26

Nice pick! I've got a few pistols, but no FNs. How much was your total for the firearm and import fees? I have been tossing around getting my exemption, just haven't pulled the trigger on it yet until I decide what I want to get.

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

USD 465 for the gun, Export Fee 60, 100 Handgun Permit Application Fee with Global Affairs Canada NEXCOL, then you pay GST and shipping in Canadian. Duty and GST 5%, and shipping is around 40 with Canada Post, so add another 145 CAD. Total Amount : USD 737 + 145 CAD, and no PST. Also bought some extra magazines so let's say around 1k CAD total. The Glock 44 is the worst because you have to get the Canadian compliant barrel installed so basically paying double.

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u/FroBro243 Jul 17 '26

Hmh not as bad as I expected. RDS still has them listed for around 750$. I appreciate the breakdown and information. Also, how long after you submitted the request did you receive the letter?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 17 '26

They don't have any handguns in stock. Try ordering a Glock 44 from RDS and see what happens...nothing. Glock 44 V doesn't even exist. The issue isn't the price but the fact that they don't exist in Canada, not new inventory anyway. Letter takes about a week or less. Sometimes it can also be a few weeks if there is a delay.

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u/FroBro243 Jul 17 '26

Absolutely. I knew RDSC wouldn't sell any but it was more of a comparison as to how bad the price adjustment was going to be. 30-40% was about what I expected. Again thanks for the info!

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u/oceanic84 Jul 17 '26

Any idea what the rules are in QC?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 21 '26

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u/FroBro243 Jul 21 '26

Thanks! I'm pressuring my buddies to get their permit and get a pistol. They all missed the train previously, and have been apprehensive about this new permit as they fear the cost. I think this will definitely help them make an informed decision!

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u/Hisoka365 Jul 22 '26

Thanks for the he breakdown. It looks like it's more now? When did you purchase this?

Did you get any upgrades like the Taylor tactical recoil Spring and guide rod?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 22 '26

No upgrades and purchased about two months ago.

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u/number75 Jul 17 '26

Congratulations! I managed to get a TX22 Competition using a .22lr exemption. it might not be a center fire but it's definitely better to have a handgun in the collection, than no handgun at all.

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 17 '26

Nice! The thing is centerfire would be too expensive to shoot hundreds of rounds with at the range. With 22LR you can literally shoot thousands of rounds a year without worrying about cost.

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u/number75 Jul 17 '26

I agree, and I feel the TX22 would be something I'd want to own even if I could get a center fire handgun. it certainly feels nice in the hand.

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u/looloopklopm Jul 20 '26

9mm is sooooooo cheap, what do you mean? Main reason I want a handgun.

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u/Thatsoverrated Jul 17 '26

Sk requires you to be active for 5/6months, meanwhile you got an exemption without anything lol.

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 17 '26

Each province is different. AB for example issues 22LR blanket exemption letters not model or make specific.

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u/challengergaren Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

Nice. I just ordered my 502 in fde from irunguns just the other day. Excited for it to show up

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u/Elbro_16 Jul 17 '26

I’m waiting for my transfer to go through from irunguns, also fde

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u/Comfortable_Image299 Jul 17 '26

Total cost to your door?

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u/challengergaren Jul 17 '26

I haven't paid for the whole thing yet just the gun and handgun permit which was $900. Have to wait till it's in canada to pay the tax and shipping.

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u/thecoolernameistaken Jul 17 '26

How does that work? Off their site or did you have another source and they buy it for you?

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u/challengergaren Jul 17 '26

I bought it off their us site from their arizona warehouse and having it imported

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u/thecoolernameistaken Jul 17 '26

Appreciate it bud

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 Jul 17 '26

Off the USA site for IRUNGUNS. You’ll forward your exemption to a lady at the US store name Carolyn, and add a ā€œhandgun application feeā€ to the cart. In order for them to ship the full firearm, the exemption must be in their possession. The rest is pretty seamless as they handle the import and everything.

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u/dj_kaled_anotha1 Jul 17 '26

Congrats man enjoy

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u/3DGunWorks Business Account Jul 18 '26

Congrats! We gotta keep pumping up the numbers

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 18 '26

We will I got like 2 more.

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u/K0bra_Ka1 Jul 17 '26

Gotta get the process started for this

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u/Top-Marionberry2739 Jul 17 '26

Okay..... how? Theres a program as a loaner here in alberta for competition. But never heard of actually owning it

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 Jul 17 '26

Alberta’s exemption is apparently one of the easiest for calibers other than .22. I’m in BC and my exemption took less than a month. Just about to get my pistol today from the post office actually and make a post later haha

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u/PlantainAcceptable62 Jul 17 '26

What gun club?

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 Jul 17 '26

You only have to be a member of BCTSA to get an exemption. I signed up for the first time and filed my exemption the very next day. You do have to be a member of ANY gun club in BC to get actually have a restricted transferred however (same rule in every province except Ontario and one of the territories)

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u/Eyeronick Jul 17 '26

How do you get a non-22 exemption? Other than trapper or other remote area work. I haven't heard about this. I get the process here for 22 but I haven't heard about larger calibers.

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 Jul 17 '26

BC’s .22 exemption doesn’t require a coach, whereas if you can get a coach, they can sign the exemption form as well to authorize an exemption for a higher caliber

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u/Eyeronick Jul 17 '26

Like get a coach in AB? I'll have to look around once I get my pistol.

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 Jul 17 '26

Alberta’s I’m not 100% familiar with, but I heard they were even granting exemptions from thehuntinggearguy for things possibly like IPSC and such, and higher calibers much easier

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u/Eyeronick Jul 17 '26

Well, that is an avenue worth pursuing. I'm going to have to do some research and reach out to some people to see if this is a realistic option. Thanks for the intel!

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 Jul 17 '26

No worries at all! BC’s is very easy and I’ve heard Alberta’s is too. And having gone through BC’s, there’s no way Alberta’s is more complicated haha

Good luck and I hope it works out!

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u/Bambam4040 Jul 17 '26

Can you tell me how u got exemption and what rang did u join?

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 Jul 17 '26

Absolutely, I’ll DM you the process!

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u/Eyeronick Jul 17 '26

Who runs the loaner program?

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u/Top-Marionberry2739 Jul 17 '26

KEN HUM (P3 Shooting Specialties) he's also a BB instructor. i used to do ipsc but haven't run in a long time as i moved to prs

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u/Eyeronick Jul 17 '26

Interesting, I'll have to look into it. Thank you!

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u/Top-Marionberry2739 Jul 17 '26

Got a few handgun for comps but i want to get a new handgun. But since its a loaner im skipping it. Good for people who cant own handguns tho. Its like $150 per year for the loaner but im unsure about the exact pricing. You get to keep it at home too i believe

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u/Eyeronick Jul 17 '26

For that price, no problem. I don't have any at the moment.

Reading into it on his website. I've started the 22 process here in AB but this is also a good avenue for the bigger calibers. Appreciate the lead.

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u/Top-Marionberry2739 Jul 17 '26

No problem. He's legit, i buy reloading stuff for ipsc and 3gun comp from the feller. Nice guy. But i moved up to long range stuff already and invested $$$ already. Hope to get back on ipsc again and 3 gun comps.

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u/Eyeronick Jul 17 '26

Sounds super fun. I reload for rifle and previously PCC but never owned a pistol. I never applied for my rpal, when I got my license in 2016, silly me. I'll reach out and see what he has to say, IPSC interests me a lot, always looked super fun. I watched a few matches at my club but they don't do rentals.

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u/Tanker2025 Jul 17 '26

So how did they ship from U.S site to Canada store ? All in Parts ?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 17 '26

It came in its case in original packaging. I think they ship as a single unit in original packaging from their USA warehouse to their Alberta warehouse and then with Canada Post to the customer. Definitely not in parts.

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u/Flaky_Process_3780 Jul 17 '26

Where'd you buy it

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 17 '26

IRUNGUNS US store online.

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u/Flaky_Process_3780 Jul 17 '26

Nice how was the process like to get one across the border ?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 17 '26

IRG does all that so you just put the order and they do the rest. Eventually it arrives by Canada Post. You just need the exemption letter before the purchase is submitted and for the transfer.

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u/oceanic84 Jul 17 '26

How is there an exemption for .22 LR handguns?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 18 '26

Because not everything you hear in the mainstream media is true. There was never a handgun ban for 22LR, just more restrictive rules which vary greatly by province.

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u/imjonjoncanada Jul 18 '26

The title of this post without reading the explanation is torturous for so many people I bet. I mean technically, my first seven firearms were four pistols, two ARs and a Type 81, but that was 15 years ago. I'm pumped for you, but at this point, this post is traumatic for a lot of "newer" RPAL holders hahaha. Also, I know you're not complaining, but saying that it came "very oily" as a "3 star review" type comment is savage hahaha. Honestly though, good for you. Go put some rounds though it, enjoy it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 Jul 17 '26

The importer-exporter IRUNGUNS has a USA site, and as long as you have an exemption for a certain handgun, you can order it off there and have it imported

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 17 '26

I would say about 2 months and Canada Post alone takes like 2 weeks once in Canada.

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u/Equivalent-Shoe-1652 Jul 17 '26

Jumping on this asap. How does it shoot? I've got mixed reviews. Planning on getting this and the taurus.

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u/Status_Ticket5044 Jul 17 '26

"Congratulations", he said, bitterly.

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u/Needler_1996 Jul 17 '26

Beautiful pistol and thanks for sharing! Is the exemption east to acquire in Ontario? I’d love a .22 to train with and enjoy

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u/darkvaider123 Jul 17 '26

Try the CZ!

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u/PantherActual Jul 18 '26

How do i get this for Ontario ?

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u/mustafazoom Jul 18 '26

Are the mags pinned by manufacturer or by irg with rivet

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 18 '26

IRG pins everything. With rivet yes.

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u/imjonjoncanada Jul 18 '26

I was lucky enough to be able to purchase 7 different pistols many years ago, and I always kinda joke about my S&W M&P .22 that I bought for my wife to shoot. Seeing this post makes me really appreciate what I have. This country has lost the plot

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u/Cricket-Legal Jul 18 '26

Wait what? How did u get it bro. I live in QC. How can I buy one

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u/throwaway12-ffs Jul 19 '26

I thought Canadians couldn't have handgun s. How did you get ane xemption?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 19 '26

They can for 22LR only target shooting training Olympic 25m discipline exemption. Each province has different rules for the exemption.

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 19 '26

You fill out a form with the provincial sports target shooting association, get the exemption letter via email and then submit it to buy/import and transfer the handgun for 22LR only. It's an intention to train for 25m pistol discipline.

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u/AdeptArt Jul 19 '26

This is only true in BC fyi. In some other provinces (not sure about AB) it's different because their provincial target shooting association requires you to have record of competition.

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u/therowdyirishman Jul 19 '26

Nice! I have an FN 509T so I'm very interested in obtaining a 502 to function as a trainer. Did you have any issues with the side cycling due to the added weight of the optic?

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u/CheesecakeEasy8952 Jul 19 '26

I’m sure my handguns would move over and make space for a CZ TS3

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u/Familiar-Ad9021 Jul 19 '26

Looll fir quebec to have that fackkkk

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 21 '26

This is how much the FN 502 Tactical cost since people keep asking. Add another 140 CAD or so for GST, Duty, and Canada Post parcel shipping. Takes about 2 months to get it from the order date.

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u/lihaoming1234567 Jul 30 '26

Congrats! I'm wondering if the process is the same in Alberta?

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u/GordoBlue Jul 17 '26

Tell us how! Congrats. Expensive ammo

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u/GokuBlank Jul 17 '26

It is a .22LR pistol .....

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u/Tricky-Locksmith-455 Jul 17 '26

Still shoots still deals damage…

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u/GokuBlank Jul 17 '26

Oh I'm not knocking the .22lr round. I was just disputing that it's expensive to shoot.

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u/MrWrock Jul 17 '26

Expensive for 22lr or you shooting something cheaper?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 17 '26

Like around 100 bucks for 1000 rounds. Definitely not expensive ammo.

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u/GordoBlue Jul 17 '26

Oooo nice. Nm. I thought it was 57!

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u/Jewemygg Jul 17 '26

Hey man, I texted you

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u/Expensive_Blood_2800 Jul 18 '26

Can you remove the pins out?

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u/circaa90 Jul 17 '26

How did you get this thought all handguns were prohibited now

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 17 '26

It's Restricted not prohibited. Don't listen to what you see in the mainstream media. You just need an exemption letter from a provincial or national sports target shooting association. Each province has different requirements.

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u/Dry_Diet9916 Jul 17 '26

Sweet. is 22lr good for home defence?

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u/BaZukaM Jul 17 '26

Fuck off.

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u/dgod40 Jul 17 '26

Why? Are you against handguns? or are you annoyed that we have to go through these absolutely moronic procedures to get handguns?

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u/thecoolernameistaken Jul 17 '26

Sarcasm btw

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u/dgod40 Jul 17 '26

I see it now... I didn't see the "lol"

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u/MrWrock Jul 17 '26

For me it's the latter, like... Fuck you I want one.Ā 

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Jul 17 '26

There was never a "freeze" for 22LR. It's just a lack of inventory and administrative restrictions. Ironically most of the 22LR rifles are prohibited but not the handguns.