Backland comp absolutely horrible initial experience right out the box

[u/twistedhumoraffy]

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[u/LumberjackCDN]

I mean i would hope a cz 600 trail thats a bolt gun is easier to maintain than any semi-auto lol. But yeah super disappointing to see after seeing some others have a good first go on here for sure.

[u/twistedhumoraffy → u/LumberjackCDN]

Yeah man I had high hopes

[u/LumberjackCDN → u/twistedhumoraffy]

You reach out to them at all? They do seem to be alot more responsive than they used to be. Theyve been chasing me down to be a dealer for them.

[u/Status_Ticket5044 → u/LumberjackCDN]

Reach out where? They are notorious for not having any points of direct contact. Lumberjack... We've come to like you for your insight and candor. Friends don't let friends retail Crusader Arms.

[u/LumberjackCDN → u/Status_Ticket5044]

Hey, im just asking a question no need to get saucey. And I am asking because they are assuring me theyve invested in customer relations lately. They seem super active on their socials and i have been getting pretty prompty replies to emails from them.

I also would take anyone who says theyre giving out rifles for free with a grain of salt, they wouldnt even offer terms when i pressed them for some.

Dont worry ive been taking their rep to task whos been pestering me about all the complaints on here. But ive also seen duds from practically every major manufacturer and it just depends how the manufacturer handles things, if they really are doing a better job and moving forward with a life time, postage paid both ways, fully transferable warranty, ala Vortex, i want to know, but the only way I find out is if I ask people on here, if theyre being taken care of.

[u/Status_Ticket5044 → u/LumberjackCDN]

I apologize. It was a bit of a pile on. That said, I'm licensed a year and a half and in trying to put together a modest collection I've stuck with consensus, especially when it comes to serviceability and after sales treatment. Deep-diving Crusader Arms as I did with everything else I bought, I was fascinated by how bad their rep is. Not just bad. Really, really bad. They have no direct web presence, which is unheard of and not helpful. If they're under new management hired expressly to turn their reputation and QC around, they've got a journey.

[u/LumberjackCDN → u/Status_Ticket5044]

Trust me I know, back in the templar says i reach out to them to carry their products and they ghosted me when i couldnt tell them how many guns id sell a month as i was new to the industry at the time. Its why im bringing exactly 1 of these in to do a bit of a deep dive which will be posted on here. Our options are limited, if this turns out to be quality then thats good for the industry as a whole. My ammo sales plummeted massively with the bans, i used to move 9mm and 556 by the case weekly, and thats when i only had a small ammo counter and like 6 guns on the wall. Im still slowly crawling through my last 9mm order (556 hasnt been as bad but it slowed from 10 cases a month to 10 a year lol)

But you also gotta be careful "reviews" like this 313 guy just did who arent being completely honest when they say they took it straight out of the box to the the range but omit the fact they actually modified the gun in someway. The first thing that caught my attention was he compared it to a cz 600 trail. Like thats a bolt action. Itd be like complaining your apple doesnt taste like an orange. Which is why i started asking more questions. Especially since ive seen a number a positive reviews on this thing so far, and had a chat with a guy in my shop who got one and has done about 1k rounds through it already and has been happy. But yeah crusader has an absolute mountain to climb regarding PR. Hopefully they do it, the industry in this country really could use it. But im not holding my breath either.

[u/Status_Ticket5044 → u/LumberjackCDN]

I took 2 cases of Bronze 223 last month to feed my Renegade for a while. When the Makasis and Carmels land, it's gonna suddenly become dear. You might get a bit of a boost there. I don't have the balls to buy anything semi- and centerfire right now but seeing as the feds might not jump on the new arrivals til the SCoC decision, the Carmel and Makasi buyers probably have til next year to go nuts. I'm damned surprised it's holding around $0.58 (plus freight of course) a round in cases.

[u/LumberjackCDN → u/Status_Ticket5044]

Right? I think we will. Also our backland coml just arrived. I have an interested customer but he wanted me to take it home and function test it. Put 25 rounds through it. Gun ran good. It handled both hornady american gunner 223 55 gr and pmc xtac 62gr green tip. The mags are definitely its week point and ill be doing a full write up on it in a bit.

[u/Status_Ticket5044 → u/LumberjackCDN]

I hope the Crusader folks find their way. It'll be one gun at a time though.

[u/LumberjackCDN → u/Status_Ticket5044]

100% im not going deep on them lol

[u/LumberjackCDN → u/Status_Ticket5044]

So his video came up in my feed. Crusader has reached out to him already and are taking care of it. Interesting to note, he doesnt disclose that he modified the magwell, which might be why its not feeding. (crusader didnt confirm this in the comments, but 313 liked the comment of the guy who said "im guessing its the magwell")