r/canadaguns • u/Careful_Passage969 • 14d ago

Application / Regulation advice home defense and Verney-Carron Flash-Ball

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i was wondering with the violence increasing (i am in montreal, people break in houses is increasing) why Verney-Carron Flash-Ball is not allowed?

I check the law and I saw the joules etc but can we decrease the PSI of it? I know they're mostly associated with law enforcement in some countries.

just wondering if a company had release a news for an equivalent.

Edit: for **self-defense**

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u/xthemoonx 14d ago

Because its not a airgun. It has 120 to 200 joules of energy and thats over 5.7 joules. A powder buring firearm needs to be below 500fps and 5.7 joules to not need a pal. Air guns is different where u only needs to be under one of the 2 thresholds. Besides all of that, using violence specifically for home defence is illegal. Only self defence is legal.

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u/Careful_Passage969 14d ago

i agree. I saw bryna for "defense" and airgun also. For the verney I saw a photo with tennis ball https://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/europe/france/exhibition/milipol_2015/pictures/Flash-Ball_Super_pro2_Milipol_2015_worldwide_exhibition_of_Internal_State_Security_Paris_France_640_001.jpg

sad there is no play to allow those even at lower FPS/joules

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u/xthemoonx 14d ago

Yes because using anything for "home defence" is illegal. Even a bat, sling shot, rubber duckies, you name it. Only self defence is allowed.