r/canadaguns • u/canadam1111 • 21d ago
Misc Moving to USA - Options on Handguns
We are moving to the USA and I have filed a atf form 6 to bring most of my firearms. They accepted most but two hand guns and the AR and one Winchester SXP of all things! What are my options I obviously don’t want to turn them in. Is there a way to sell those handguns in Canada before we go?
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u/Fit_Fuel_6515 21d ago
I'll give you $35 and a Pizzahut coupon
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u/canadam1111 21d ago
Haha at this point it I could give them away for a good meal I might have to 😂
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u/Strong-Owl-55 21d ago
Pizza hut ill get you a steak
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u/Relevant_Diver_3228 21d ago
I'll give you 2 whole cows to give me just the handguns and AR
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u/tyler111762 Resident Certified Millennial Punk 21d ago
Calgary shooting centre will occasionally buy them.
-guy who works there
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 21d ago
Certain auction houses in Canada will sell your handguns as parts kits and only destroy the frame.
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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 21d ago
You can consign them at auction like Switzer’s or Kidd family auction. If they’re .22s, there’s a few provinces that are easy to get exemptions for. Which pistols are they if I may inquire?
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u/canadam1111 21d ago
SFP9 and a Canuck 1911
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u/Vintage_Pieces_10 21d ago
Probably best to consign on one of the aforementioned auction sites (side note, it’s crazy they wouldn’t accept those two pistols). You can also sell to exempted businesses, I know adventarms corp gunsmithing in Coombs BC is licensed to buy, as well as some ranges
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u/16gaugeguy16 21d ago
This is the correct answer. SFRC does a restricted auction that can also be added to the list
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u/OCTS-Toronto 21d ago
Can you strip all the parts and take them with you? Then just buy a frame in the US and rebuild your pistol(s)? You can destroy the gun portion (usually the frame but it depends) and just report it to the RCMP as destroyed.
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u/canadam1111 21d ago
Appreciate this suggestion I will check on the ATF side.
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u/OCTS-Toronto 21d ago
Clearly NAL, but if it's not a gun by the US and Canadian legal definition then you would not have to declare it as a gun when crossing the border. It would be just metal parts .
What is considered to be a gun can be complicated. I've used irunguns in the past to navigate the legal channels. If you can afford the fees it's a great service.
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u/Spydude84 21d ago
Gun parts can still be restricted, so you may not have to declare a gun, but you would have to declare gun parts.
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u/OCTS-Toronto 20d ago
What is an example of a restricted gun part? Are you thinking of scopes under ITAR?
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u/Spydude84 20d ago
Pretty sure you need import paperwork for any firearms part, unless exempted. Barrels are one such example you need paperwork for. Firearms parts are considered defense articles.
Go read ATF Form 6 as a starting point.
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u/OCTS-Toronto 20d ago
It can't be that black and white. I shipped a cz bolt to the US for warranty repair. Didn't need a customs form. And I got an extractor from Ruger in the mail.
This was well before COVID and it's possible that they tightened the rules. But you can get rails and other parts of amazon.com so not everything is excluded.
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u/Spydude84 20d ago
Like, I said, there are some exemptions. Warranty repair iirc is one of them, low value items too.
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u/marston82 21d ago
That's the way to go. So sick of these posts from people about moving from the US to Canada or from Canada to some European country with insane license levels, asking about how they can acquire/keep their ar15 lol. If you move and want more firearm rights/freedoms, moving to a gun friendly American state like Florida is the only option. I saw this one post about moving from Canada to France because they were disillusioned with Canadian gun restrictions and then all the comments were about the lengthy hoops he had to jump through to get a semi in France.
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u/Apologetic-Moose 21d ago
I saw this one post about moving from Canada to France because they were disillusioned with Canadian gun restrictions and then all the comments were about the lengthy hoops he had to jump through to get a semi in France.
Hoops there might be, but now I suggest you compare how hard it is to get an AR in France vs here. Or, you know, most semis in general.
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u/canadam1111 21d ago
It’s been years in the making. Things have just changed here so much since I moved back to Canada in 2012. Came back young. Started a family and now it’s time to go back. We are heading to Florida and I’m so excited about the opportunity for more firearm freedoms.
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u/Ruffus98 21d ago
You are obviously talking about my post in https://www.reddit.com/r/EuropeGuns/. Firearms are actually not the main reason for the move. Our terrible healthcare system is, family member dying here waiting for treatment, they can get surgery in 4-6 weeks in France. Aslo, France has legal suppresors with no permit, handguns, AK's, AR's, 30 round magazines and more. Definitely more hoops then Canada circa 2015 but still better in someways (I.E mags, suppresors and AK's). Canada today is done for gun owners, maybe we get grandfathered post supreme court but this passion is dead here in 10 years tops if nothing changes in a massive way. Oh and French conservative party is leading in the polls, can only get better in France. Not to mention I can live in Poland or CZ down the road if I want as an EU citizen. Good luck moving to the U.S without 1 million $+ or a specialized trade or skill...
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u/Jman4647 21d ago
Curious about another option, someone could probably tune in with more information.
Say someone in Canada had an RPAL, and you worked out some suitable compensation with them... That person would look after the handgun for you, maybe even take it to the range from time to time, but it's still your gun.
If that's legal, I'd be interested in "helping" you out and paying for the privilege.
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u/Current-Speed4096 21d ago
i don't know the answer to your question unfortunately, but I'm happy for you bud. Which state are you moving to?
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u/canadam1111 21d ago
Appreciate it all the less! We are heading to Florida!
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u/CurlyWurly61 21d ago edited 21d ago
Time to change your user to Americadam1111😈
I'm right behind you buddy. I'm leaving this sinking ship quite soon
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u/canadam1111 21d ago
I love this comment! It’s been with me for so long. But Canada has changed way too much. See you on the other side!
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u/canadam1111 21d ago
Luckily I was able to get my dual citizenship, long process and story. We are just waiting on my wife’s green card from Canada now. The exit taxes can be scary. But luckily most things like primary residence, RRSPs, TFSAs and RPPs are generally exempt
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u/613mitch 21d ago edited 21d ago
Exit taxes?
Edit: Nevermind, looked it up. Had no idea we had exit taxes.
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u/FilterAccount69 21d ago
Yup, some of the more aggressive of the western world although it really only starts to matter when you have a decent amount of money.
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u/BackToTheCottage 19d ago
Technically called deemed disposition. You "sell" all your assets and then rebuy them, paying any capital gains.
It is only the gains that get taxed and being capital gains, only 50% of it is actually taxed (used to be 25%, blame Trudeau).
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u/ThrowRA_That_Owl_25 21d ago
Op, do you have to get the once they allowed in engraved?
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u/BackToTheCottage 19d ago edited 19d ago
Oh shit this is an option? I recently got my GC and was thinking of using irunguns to import all my old guns but atf form 6 can cheaply import em all?
Any info on it?
Edit: Ah crap, looks like this was something I shoulda done before entering the US. RIP, gotta go through an importer. Grats on the move though, are you a US Citizen or also immigrating? We moved back around 2021.
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u/16gaugeguy16 21d ago
Sell the SXP privately.
Have an auction sell the handguns for you.
Strip the AR15 down to parts, sell the parts (or auction them for a low effort sale), and turn the upper and lower over to the police.
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u/Steelringin 21d ago
'turn the upper and lower over to the police.'
Instead of turning them over just destroy them and report their destruction. No need to pad their numbers.
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u/16gaugeguy16 21d ago edited 21d ago
Good luck with how that legal experiment plays out.
It doesn't pad the buyback numbers, police just destroy it and keep track for their records. Participating in the buyback pads the numbers.
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u/Lumindan 21d ago
Certain ranges and stores can buy them.