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Gun and gear reviews Derya Pump Action 9mm Review - Loose Screws And Cracks

https://youtu.be/-sRJPhHVuog

Unfortunately, I did not have a very good experience with this one. As a friend said, it was the most "Turkish experience" so far.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '26

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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Jun 20 '26

ive seen this comment a lot on here. do people not buy guns for fun or unique actions? even if it was 2019 id be interested in owning one, especially if it was a lever

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u/yoyofagbro Jun 20 '26

I mean if u had the option to buy semi autos, than this would be a cool purchase but when firearms like these are out into the market because of the lack of semi autos, than you can't judge these based Off some cool range plinker but you have to judge these based off your previously legal semi autos which blow this slop out of the water

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u/Practical-Mix69 Jun 20 '26

Man if semi auto PPC’s were still legal to buy and shoot they wouldn’t be on the market. Especially for $900, no way I’m buying this.

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u/LostTheRemote Jun 20 '26

Henry homesteader is still legal

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u/Mysterious_Sleep7443 Jun 21 '26

Then you year the Argument that they will ban the Homesteader

Haha ive been enjoying mine for 2 full years

People are still on the fence about buying one in fear of bans LMFAO

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u/Practical-Mix69 Jun 20 '26

I was referring to “black rifles” like Ruger, Freedom Ordinance, B&T, 9mm AR’s ect..

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u/FD4L Jun 20 '26

In 2019 this would be $400.

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u/Q-Ball7 In the end, it's taxes all the way down Jun 20 '26

In 2019, $400 was worth what $800 is today.

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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Jun 21 '26

i can't beleive 2019 was over 20 years ago already

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u/Q-Ball7 In the end, it's taxes all the way down Jun 21 '26

There are decades where years [of inflation] happen, and then there are years where decades [of inflation] happen.

2020-2021 was the latter.

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u/Joeyjackhammer Jun 21 '26

I buy pump action shotguns, as God intended. This is cope.

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u/Lumindan Jun 20 '26

Folks have varying tastes.

For some, this is as close to a PCC replacement or people who get straight pulls as a AR replacement. It OOKS similar and they can maybe reuse some furniture.

It is by definition buying to cope with the loss of options.

Doesn't mean you can't want unique actions or odd guns.

Plus levers aren't cope guns imo (I say this as someone who's building out a cope Henry supreme lmao)

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u/One-Coffee-2621 Jun 20 '26

I love weird guns, and the idea of manual action PCCs, love my Rhineland. Would probably be getting the bolt even if semi's were available, but I also acknowledge that I'm in the, if not the minority

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u/LeeFrann Jun 21 '26

"Yes yes sell me garbage"

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u/Q-Ball7 In the end, it's taxes all the way down Jun 21 '26

No- we don't buy guns, we just claim moral superiority over the people that do.

In all seriousness, though, this product suffers because it's not really a new design, it's mostly just trying to maximally reuse TM-22 parts/development that were already paid for.

In this case, stuff that's fine on the .22- namely the single (thin) action bar, very thin pump, no action lock (and depending on the mechanical disadvantage of said single action bar to keep the gun locked- probably a lot better on the .22), and long bolt (so most of its geometries can be used in the lever-action version too)- is not quite as fine on the 9. Similarly, the stock retention and the pump itself likely yield no problems on the .22, as it's only 1/3rd the recoil.

It doesn't help that the non-semi-auto TM22s are very squarely in the "meme gun" category (they likely cost more for Derya to make than the semi-auto TM22 does: more parts for zero mechanical benefit), so the fact they can't run as fast is probably fine... and then reusing those parts/designs for the 9mm means the final product inherits those compromises. And that'd be fine if they were asking near the same price for the 9, but they're not.

The bolt action looks like it was engineered from the ground up to be a bolt-action 9mm, as it's clearly unlike anything else in their catalogue; I would expect that one to perform a lot better due to that fact alone.

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u/tyler111762 Resident Certified Millennial Punk Jun 21 '26

Now I am kinda glad I missed the range day lmao

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u/sometimesifeellikean Jun 22 '26

it has quirks, but does it have quirks and features?