r/canadaguns Jun 13 '26

Misc Is this a good crown land spot?

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Hey everyone, I've never shot on crownland and I have been looking at scouting some spots. I found this one and I wanted to see if it would be a spot to start practicing long range shooting. I'd be firing parallel to the roads and in the direction of the arrow. There are no dwellings within at least 20km of this spot. What are your thoughts?

fyi this is around north bay ontario

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u/waitwhatnothing Jun 13 '26

Where is this roughly? 

That doesn’t look like a great spot to me, but take a look at a topo version maybe. Good spots for long range shooting on crown land are going to be real hard to find in eastern Canada for example, the bush is thick and when it isn’t that usually means it’s swampy.

In my experience the best spots that are easy to find with satellite maps and cross referencing crown land info are inactive gravel pits. 

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u/gugz92 Jun 13 '26

Yeah I'm in ontario, it's around north bay, I'm really struggling lol. I usually love forests but man it messes with shooting so much. How do you know if gravel pits are inactive?

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u/waitwhatnothing Jun 13 '26

It’s not always up to date but the Ontario crown land atlas does say if there’s an aggregate lease. 

The best way is to make a little list of potential spots in an area and then go check them out. If it’s an active pit there will be signage or a gate. 

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u/He4vyD00dy Jun 14 '26

Speak with your local CO but powerline right of ways on crownland are usually a good spot to shoot if they’re remote

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u/gugz92 Jun 14 '26

I was looking into going under the power lines but crownland overlays and stuff have them marked off? So I'm best just dropping into city hall and asking them directly eh?

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u/Flat-Dark-Earth Big Bore Specialist Jun 14 '26

You can shoot down power lines in Ontario assuming it’s surrounded by crown land and not shooting over roadways or residential buildings.

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u/EnvironmentalFox7532 Jun 14 '26

Usually crown land under disposition such as pipeline or power line right of ways are not shown as crown land because they basically under lease to the owner of the Right of way. But technically they are still crown land, the legal disposition on that piece of land is just to allow the company to use it for thier purposes and it states what ever reclamation is required, what they can use it for etc.

Basically like say a 100year recreational cabin permit that some provinces have but for infrastructure.

Source, I work as a land use planner that acquires land use dispositions for oil and gas companies

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u/gugz92 Jun 14 '26

Dude thank you so much that makes so much more sense, have you had any experience shooting on those hydrocuts?

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u/EnvironmentalFox7532 Jun 14 '26

Two of my usual spots are powerlines in Alberta but I’m soon abandoning one as it seems there are too many irresponsible shooters out there lately. Showed up there a few weeks ago and there were 10-15 East Indians shooting whatever they felt like including a lot of 30round SKS mags etc. while drinking at that. Stopped and let them know where I was going and went to the other side of a large hill down the powerline.

Spot will be shut down because of them, and I want no part of whatever comes next should I happen to be out there when someone reports them. Not to mention all the junk and casings left behind. Besides I Don’t really want cops who don’t understand mag laws coming out there when I’m shooting 25 round mags in my TM22. Too much confusion with local cops around here and a lot of them get all concerned with anything over 5 in a rifle. I’ve had to google and show them that it doesn’t apply to rimfire, and the 10round limit only applies to the 10/22 and even explained why. Rather not have to be dealing with them on a regular basis due to irresponsible people out shooting when I’m just wanting to mind my own business and shoot in peace.

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u/gugz92 Jun 15 '26

Dude that friggin sucksssss, that's what bums me out about this hobby. It takes one ding dong to bring us all down. A major part of my circle had no exposure to guns and they have really started to be more comfortable but then I read about stuff like that and I'm like yikesss. Lol

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u/EnvironmentalFox7532 Jun 15 '26

I take new folks out all the time. Heading up north this week for work with a guy from the UK that’s never held or shot a gun before. Taking my TM22, shorty 12ga and maybe I’ll take one of my bolt actions out too. Going to be in the bush a couple days so I told him I’d bring a brick of 22lr to pass some time in the evening on our work trip.

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u/waitwhatnothing Jun 13 '26

Also, I sent you a pm with a spot.

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u/NeruLight Jun 13 '26

Sorry to trouble you but would you be able to message that Ontario spot to me, too? 👉👈 I’m solo guy and very responsible! Probably won’t even go there, but I’d love to know one anyway.

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u/gugz92 Jun 14 '26

Dude im always looking for buddies, let me know what range you go to and we can meet up!

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u/waitwhatnothing Jun 13 '26

I’m unable to message your account 

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u/NeruLight Jun 14 '26

Ahh! My mistake! I fixed it I hope

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u/gugz92 Jun 14 '26

I also got your chat request but I can't accept it for some reason. Im gonna try to dopy ou guys one!

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u/NeruLight Jun 14 '26

I’ll try desktop browser tomorrow I think Reddit is busted cuz I can’t message anyone lol

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u/gugz92 Jun 14 '26

I see your PM, but I can't accept your chat request. I think its a bug!

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u/gugz92 Jun 13 '26

Dude, BC has great spots, I go there part time. I work around Duncan, but here is a question can I just go up any of those logging roads and let er rip into a mountain as long as it's crown land? I feel so wary going up those logging areas 

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u/Stryker1-1 Jun 13 '26

Depends on the crown land, not all crown land allows for the discharge of firearms, also need to consider local city/township ordinance.

Just because its crown land does not automatically mean its a free for all.

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u/gugz92 Jun 13 '26

I'm gonna start looking at some Duncan spots a little later, would it be alright if I sent them over to you a little later for your opinion. I've never shot outside of a range before and I'm high key terrified of getting gorked by law enforcement for being in the wrong spot or missing a detail

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u/Reasonable_Hall2346 Jun 13 '26

No, you can't just rip it on any logging road. Some are explicitly marked as no shooting zones due it high activity, hiking, off-roading, logging etc. For the mainland: https://www.fvrd.ca/assets/Government/Documents/NoShootingAreas.pdf

From my experience just offroading in Vancouver Island, most of the FSRs are owned by Mosiac and are not crownland. They may grant permission for use for offroad, but doubt they allow shooting. Its privately owned so I have no clue. Its why I avoid the island, such a shame the beautiful land has been privately sold.

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u/gugz92 Jun 13 '26

Dude that's so lame! It's kind of messed up how much land we have but how little of it is open for shooting

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u/Reasonable_Hall2346 Jun 13 '26

Generally BC has great spots, apart from Vancouver Island. I am not local to the Island so I wouldn't know all the details, but my experience off-roading there is that most of the service roads are marked private property. I wouldn't want to be trespassing with my firearms for sure.

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u/Sco0basTeVen Jun 13 '26

As long as it’s crown land and you are 400m from a numbered two lane highway and shooting into a backstop, it should be fine. I wouldn’t even hike of the FSR that far either. Find a spot I can pull up to and shoot from the side of the road or a landing

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u/gugz92 Jun 13 '26

Dumb question but what is an FSR? I keep seeing that term and I could find out what it means

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u/TheOriginalFarmboy Jun 13 '26

Forestry Service Road

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u/Water-Foul Jun 13 '26

I used to struggle with this a lot, I got a subscription for an app called Ihunter and it shows all the zones on a map overlay. Crown land, city limits, parks, no shooting areas (usually). I highly recommend it. People get a little touchy when people post specific spots on here, dont let it discourage you. Obviously there's more to it than just finding crown land, good backstop, sightlines and all that. I wish you luck! crown land shooting is best shooting.

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u/BowFella Jun 13 '26

Only way to know is to go there yourself. A map doesnt tell you where a backstop is or how tall the brush is. The spot could be wide open with a good back stop but have waist high grass or a bunch of new growth that doesnt give you a clear shooting lane. If I were you I'd bring a shooting bench or a shooting stick that gets you as high off the ground as possible, a hand saw to clear brush, and maybe a tall cardboard box to raise your target too if the backstop allows for it. Personally it wouldnt be worth driving hours for unless you're heading there for other reasons too.

Oh and a thermacell and watch out for ticks.

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u/gugz92 Jun 14 '26

Lol great advice thanks man, you defo know the way eh. And don't get me started on ticks I'm an eye doc so lyme disease is always on my radar 

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u/BowFella Jun 14 '26

From my time in the woods I've had hundreds of ticks on me. Maybe only a couple of them ever latched but I've only ever seen deer ticks.

For shooting spots I'd look for logging areas and abandoned quarries. Back stops are plentiful and not a lot of ground brush. Lakes are a decent option too if you pick them right. Find one with high banks and no trails or houses on the other side or cabins on the lake. Hydro lines are a tricky one. They almost always have ATV trails going down them and the brush is usually high.

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u/gugz92 Jun 14 '26

Thank you my shooting brothers (and sisters!) This was really helpful. I'm marking down a few spots to go scout. At worst I have a nice day out larping with my shotgun and at best I find a spot. I'll keep you posted! I promise to clean up and leave no trace

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u/Boshek77 4d ago

You end up finding any spots to shoot around North Bay?

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u/gugz92 4d ago

Hey man! I haven't had a chance to head up yet, I'm planning for October it's just been a super busy year. Will keep you posted and scoped out a few places to look