r/canadaguns Jun 12 '26

Buy recommendations Any reviews on this?

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Just saw this new derya semi on sfrc, anyone got one?

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u/Even-Somewhere-9554 Jun 12 '26

Get a canuck/ panzer M4 instead. M3000 is the cheapest Semi auto shotgun I will buy. But I skipped all Turkeneli and bought myself an A300 UP

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u/Iokua_CDN Jun 12 '26

I'm not sure if any semi shotgun looks as good as that Ultimate Patrol. Something about it just looks good!

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u/Nervous-Muffin-6691 Jun 12 '26

Especially with the mythical tiger stripe camo

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u/Even-Somewhere-9554 Jun 12 '26

I wish I could find one. But in Canuckstan, it is lucky you could find a black/ grey one in stock

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u/Tookan_ Jun 13 '26

Check CSC

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u/SocksOfDeath Jun 12 '26

Hell yeah, UP club!

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u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26

Get a Mossberg 500 instead, or if you're on a budget a Maverick 88. If you have more money. It's not semi, but it will work 😃

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u/goshathegreat Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26

This is a semi auto, at least recommend other semis like a used Remington 1100/11-87, or a new Beretta A300 Ultima Patrol if they have 1.5k to spend.

Another option that is considered to be the gold standard for Turkish shotguns is the Stoeger M3000/M3K.

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u/Eyeronick Jun 12 '26

Stroegers are on sale right now too! Just picked one up because they started making the m3000 in left. That's extremely rare to find a left hand semi shotgun under $1000

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u/TheOriginalFarmboy Jun 12 '26

Why spend $500 on a semi that will ftf every second round when you could spend $400 on one that will likely outlive you.

There's no "good" sub $1k semis.

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u/goshathegreat Jun 12 '26

lol that’s funny, the 1100 I bought last year cost 500 bucks and will cycle anything from 24g Olympic loads to 1.5oz magnums…

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u/Iokua_CDN Jun 12 '26

Used old style a300 for under 600 !Ā 

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u/marston82 Jun 12 '26

What if you already got a 500? A lot of people just want a cheap semi auto shotgun without paying over $1k.

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u/Nervous-Muffin-6691 Jun 12 '26

Save up would be my recommendations. Cheap and semi auto shotguns don’t mix well

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u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 Jun 12 '26

I have not had much luck with cheap shotguns ... I learned my lesson during boxing day last year.

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u/Popular_Chocolate538 Jun 12 '26

1301/m4 time šŸ˜‚

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u/Cope180-Enjoyer Jun 12 '26

It looks like it checks all the boxes, but is it Turk shit?

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u/DireNight114 Jun 12 '26

They started in turkey but moved most of their ops to Florida

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u/Cope180-Enjoyer Jun 12 '26

Maybe buying one of these and then selling my Beretta A300. šŸ¤” šŸ˜„

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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn Jun 12 '26

🤣

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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn Jun 12 '26

These however are turkish

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u/DireNight114 Jun 12 '26

Ya i think so was just researching as well.

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u/Traditional_Bank2200 Jun 12 '26

A Turkish gun blessed by Floridian dark magic?
How do you wield such power?

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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn Jun 12 '26

Looking at the price point its probably similar build quality to a charles daly. Id spend the extra on a canuck

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u/skunktits Jun 12 '26

Just curious do you feel the Canucks are at a higher level for the semi clones? I own an operator and it's been perfect to me but I only have a few hundred shells through it

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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn Jun 12 '26

Yes and O'dell is way easier to deal with for warranty stuff. That being said even in the canuck lines theres varying quality. And even the tacop elites dont compare to the a300 on the wall right now

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u/Penguinbotxv Jun 12 '26

Stoeger instead

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u/itsyaboi6909 Jun 12 '26

M3500, any Tri-Star, or Girsan are all a little more proven imo I’d spend a couple hundred bucks more.

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u/Otherwise_Rub_9515 Jun 13 '26

Do not buy Canadian or Turkish guns, they are absolute junk.

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u/Wiggum13 Jun 12 '26

I’d recomend spending extra on the Canuck tacop elite. I’ve shot my buddies m4 tons. And I have the tac-op, and honestly they both function the exact same with correct ammo. Just don’t go any lighter that a 1-1/8 oz round

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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn Jun 12 '26

The elites are probably the best of the turkish stuff 100%

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u/ivanlarav Jun 12 '26

Better than the Panzer M4 Speed Pro Tac? Considering a semi-auto and debating whether to save some money by choosing a Turkish option or just go for a Beretta.

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u/brianwsch Jun 12 '26

Ive been told by people that own both to get the Panzer.

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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn Jun 12 '26

I mean youre so close at the price point id go beretta personally but not everyone can stretch.

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u/ivanlarav Jun 12 '26

Is the A300 Ultima Patrol a good option, or should I go for the 1301?

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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn Jun 12 '26

Both are good, ill pm ya

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u/Iokua_CDN Jun 12 '26

Panzer seems the better gun, but I hear their warranty is a lot harder to use than the Canuck

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u/Even-Somewhere-9554 Jun 12 '26

Get a canuck/ panzer M4 instead. M3000 is the cheapest Semi auto shotgun I will buy. But I skipped all Turkeneli and bought myself an A300 UP

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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn Jun 12 '26

You made the right choice the a300 up is slick. My favourite one in our shop right now for the semis.

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u/TheOriginalFarmboy Jun 12 '26

Maverick. Twice as good for $100 less.

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u/BowFella Jun 12 '26

Spending $500 on a semi turkshit is asking for trouble. I've seen seen everything from bolt catches not working, non stop FTF, and firing pins not working. Even on Canucks. All right out of the box

I have no idea why people buy these instead of spending a little more (or even the same amount) on a reliable brand like Mossberg. The mossberg 930 is only $200 more and will never fail you. I've run hundreds of rounds with everything from low brass target load with less than 1oz of shot all the way to magnum turkey loads without any issues. If semi auto is not a deal breaker then a 590 for the same price will be way better.

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u/Strong-Owl-55 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26

Tenda has a great deal for a hunt group mx4 with ammo if there still available for 540+tax also seems to look similar to panzer m4 even has the ported barrel

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u/Acc4Wtf Jun 13 '26

Looks like it's using furniture from the FS-Pro... I've heard good reviews on that one, when I got mine it was missing one of the hiviz rods for the rear sights. I sold it without ever firing it, but for different reasons unrelated to the firearm.

. Idk man, low priced semi autos in general sort of scare me, but at the same time, give it a shot because not everyone needs top of the line stuff especially if they don't even shoot often.

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u/Wind_0f_Pain Jun 15 '26

You will never regret buying a Benelli or a Beretta. Every aspect of ownership is better, including long-term reliability, parts availability, and future resale value. There is a lot to be said for buying once and avoiding the endless cycle of warranty claims or ā€œupgradingā€ from one sub-$1,000 semi-auto to the next. Save yourself the headaches, troubleshooting, and wasted time that often comes with cheap clone guns. That’s time and energy you could be spending at the range or with friends and family instead. I can’t stress this enough. Over the last ten years I’ve owned roughly ten different 12-gauge shotguns, including Browning (both Belgian and Japanese-made), Winchester (American and Japanese-made), Canuck, Weatherby, Remington, Benelli, Beretta, and Mossberg. The only ones I kept: Benelli SBE3

Remington Versa Max

Beretta 1301 Side note: the Remington Versa Max is criminally underrated. The V3 is a more refined shotgun in many respects and is still in production, but it cannot accommodate 3.5ā€ shells. In the Canadian market, that reduces overall magazine capacity compared to the Versa Max, if that sort of thing matters to you.

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u/Omega_Shaman Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 13 '26

Buy a Sulun Tac 12 m4 instead.

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u/CanadianLanBoy Jun 12 '26

For the love of God just buy a Blue Line