r/canadaguns • u/XyDarkSonic • Jun 05 '26
Misc Would a AR-16 clone be legal in Canada?
It's distinct enough from an AR-180 already, but could do with a few extra design changes just in case. Even though there's no companies actually making AR-16 clones I've still had this question floating in my mind for a bit. What do you guys think?
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u/Schrodinger_cube Jun 05 '26
The problem is that it looks scary. It may be possible to design and make one that passes the rcmps process but then someone who is not accountable just names it individually and ~(south park bank teller meme)~ is gone.
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u/jinguslovesmeth Jun 05 '26
The liberal government classifies cutlery as nuclear weapons so no I don’t think so lol
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u/rastamasta45 Jun 05 '26
Problem is a clone now would be designed today, so it would have to be made with a proprietary magazine to be C21 compliant
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u/XyDarkSonic Jun 05 '26
I agree with the other guy, even if it's a proprietary magazine I'd still take it.
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u/Relevant_Diver_3228 Jun 05 '26
I would be even happier with proprietary if it was like the Crypto magwell and you could just file some ridges and then put in 10 round LAR mags
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u/FacetiousSpaceman Jun 05 '26
Shhh, we don't need the RCMP catching on to this fun little work-around lol
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u/CringelordCameron Jun 05 '26
If it's built off the exact operating system with modifications to prevent full auto fire, it can be classified as a variant of the ar16 design and use normal magazines.
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u/XyDarkSonic Jun 05 '26
Would it even be considered a variant? As far as I know, there's only two AR16s that still exist.
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u/Banana_war Jun 05 '26
I’d recommend not putting “AR” in the name to increase chances of not being banned.
That being said, I like the idea.
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u/XyDarkSonic Jun 05 '26
A clone would probably need to be called something safe as a precaution. Anti-gunners already think "AR" stands for "Assault Rifle" so just call it some shit like "CA" for "Canadian Rifle" and they might just ignore it.
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u/Banana_war Jun 05 '26
As someone in the comments said call it NB16 (for non binary) and we should be fine.
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u/TheSockington Jun 05 '26
Someone just needs to make this furniture kit for the Makasi MK15 please ❤️
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u/Not-you_but-Me Greater Nova Scotian Empire Jun 05 '26
For a few months. Any semi auto with a detachable magazine and military-ish furniture is going to get hit with a ban.
I’d really like to see someone come up with a top loading 5-round semi with a fixed, internal magazine and a 1 piece wooden stock marketed as a hunting rifle.
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u/DryF1re Jun 06 '26
you really want an internal magazine?
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u/Not-you_but-Me Greater Nova Scotian Empire Jun 06 '26
Not particularly, but I’d rather have the option vs a manual action and a DBM. You can find all the not-ARs you want; it’s not going to stop the Provost lobby from going after them. It’s a lot harder to argue an internal magazine is at odds with the spirit of the bans while still maintaining most of the functionality of a semi-auto.
I’d basically like someone to make a top-loading BAR.
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u/Armedfist Jun 05 '26
It just need name like non-binary 16 and it might get approved.
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u/pukalo_ Jun 05 '26
As long as it is redesigned to only be able to use its own 5-round magazine it should be legal by the letter of the law, but the RCMP loves to make some very interesting "interpretations" to ban whatever they/the liberals want.
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u/icebalm on Jun 05 '26
If you go by how the laws are written? Yeah sure.
If you go by the arbitrary bullshit the RCMP and the government are doing? Who the hell knows.
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u/AresV92 Jun 06 '26
Did the Henry Homesteader get banned yet? If not I vote we name this AR-16 clone the Henry Homesteader Muskoka Extraordinaire. Folks love Muskoka and Homesteads. Keep it wood furniture and try to make it look as much like grand papy's ol' huntin' rifle as possible and we may get to shoot it for a while.
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u/noobwelds Jun 07 '26
2nd amendmant should be in canada, criminals kill people nothe guns. If a dirtbag wants to kill they will.
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u/black_covfefe_please Jun 05 '26
Keep in mind that AR-180 hasn't been banned. Just all the currently available AR-180 models were banned.
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u/XyDarkSonic Jun 05 '26
Gotta wonder why they banned the AR-180B but not the AR-180 itself.
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u/chillyrabbit Jun 05 '26
AR18/AR180 was banned in the 90's
65 The firearm of the design commonly known as the Armalite AR-180 Sporter carbine, and any variant or modified version of it.
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u/XyDarkSonic Jun 05 '26
Damn it
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u/black_covfefe_please Jun 06 '26
To correct my earlyer post, AR-180b hasn't been banned, just all the currently available AR-180b models that are currently available.
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u/xgamerdaddyx Jun 05 '26
That's so scawy ban it
In reality would buy though if a Variant was made in an ammo type that's worth it. 5.56 ideally, but getting that authorized currently would be a struggle.
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u/DonJuanPrawns Jun 06 '26
Weirdly what I've noticed with the new guns if the barrel is over 16 inches it's legal idk why or if that's just a weird thing that's happening with what is happening but something to pay attention too
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u/RtothemfO Jun 09 '26
I mean, it’s possible but anything could happen due to the ban. The PPS-50 is a “clone” of the PPSH-41 yet it slipped through and it’s still legal and same with the Valmet M78 which is an AK/RPK “clone” but it’s kinda rare so it makes sense why they wouldn’t ban it
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u/Sticky_3pk Jun 05 '26
Being different enough mechanically doesn't mean shit to the bans.
Remember the Blaze47 is considered an AK variant.