r/canadaguns • u/Iokua_CDN • May 30 '26
Feets / Collection / My build Can't decide. LPVO or Reddot and backup irons.
Stuck with this decision. Love iron sights, but also just bought a new 1-4 lpvo which of course needs to be further back so I can't keep the backup irons.
Other options to consider. A quick detach Cantilever might let me keep the irons, and just pop of the scope at the range when I want to shoot irons. Or I have a more notch and post sight I can pop on further down the rail and just remove the scope when I want to shoot irons.
Or just stop obsessing about irons and shoot my gun at 1x if I really want
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u/Bubbafett33 May 30 '26
The LPVO at 4x allows for more precise supported shooting >100 yards. The red dot doesn’t.
In the olden days when we could have weapons of mass destruction I tried both and went with an LPVO that also had an illuminated dot—that was the best of both worlds for me (also, made ~200 yard shots easier in 3 gun).
And before people chime in, yes, I know it is 100% possible to shoot things with a red dot on a rifle at 200 yards. I just like to look close up!
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u/Iokua_CDN May 30 '26
My mad eyes, I definitely want/need the zoom too! Thanks, I think I'm going to go LPVO!
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u/Neat_Imagination2503 May 30 '26
I feel like a red dot on this is just stupid. Lpvo makes way more sense and lose the backup irons
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u/Few_Lynx2224 May 30 '26
Mount the irons both in front of the scope, the sight radius will be shorter but if there backups you'll still be good
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u/Iokua_CDN May 30 '26
Thanks! I actually did this after, with a set of MP7 knock off irons that can either be notch and post, or peep! Definitely feels like the best of both worlds! Thanks for the advice!!!
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u/Iokua_CDN May 30 '26
It's just leather cord! I mostly have old school wood Fudd guns, so adding some leather to this is what made me feel better trying a more modern look
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u/IntrepidKitchen5322 May 30 '26
Lol don't mind that other guy, I quite like the leather wrapping!
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u/Iokua_CDN May 30 '26
Thank you! It was an odd experiment for me, I'm not sure if it will stay forever, but for now I like it
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u/IntrepidKitchen5322 May 30 '26
Ya everyone else thinking you're a psycho wrapping copper wire around your gun hahha
I'm thinking about wet moulding a leather grip around one of my guns too
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u/Iokua_CDN May 30 '26
Right?? This was the first time anyone thought it was copper.
With moulding sounds even more comfortable. I know they also sell Leather handguards that look a bit better, or a crafty individual could simply make them!
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u/immortalreddotmemeog May 30 '26
At a very quick glance i thought it was wood furniture, I was sadly disappointed when I looked twice
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u/Iokua_CDN May 30 '26
Sorry! Maybe someday I'll figure out some wood grips or inserts! Till then, it's leather!
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u/immortalreddotmemeog May 30 '26
No need to apologize, it's your gun, probably was expensive enough without any extras
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u/Difficult_Pipe_991 May 30 '26
What is this?
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u/Molnutz May 30 '26
LPVO with the red dot on top of the LPVO and irons on a 45 offset. Don't forget two foregrips and an IR light.
But seriously, LPVO
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u/Iokua_CDN May 30 '26
My range usually is at a 50m or 100 meter range, but I also have a 200-800 meter if I wanted to try 200
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u/casa_del_porno May 30 '26
Whatever feels best for you. But if you only have iron sights as backup, unless you have a POS optic, I would drop the iron sights.
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u/LananasCourageux May 30 '26
The Trail's defining characteristic is its weight. I wanted to build out mine with this same paradigm in mind so I went with a PA Slx 3x microprism.
As far as 7.62x39 goes, I think the accuracy of the cartridge pretty well matches what I can see and shoot with a red dot. The 3x magnification is really just gravy.
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u/bosnanic May 30 '26
if you can afford it: LPVO
if you can't and want to reach out: decent scope
if you can't and want get on target: red dot + magnifier
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u/HappyCan7250 May 30 '26
Nice rifle, x39 or 223?
I'd go for the LPVO. I only really use red dots on shotguns, or on my Homesteader, and even now, I've gone to an LPVO on it.
LPVO is much more versatile for a rifle caliber vs a red dot. For me, it personally drives me nuts not having zoom.
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u/Iokua_CDN May 30 '26
This one is a 7.62 x39!
After all the comments, I'm definitely going LPVO. You are right, it's really nice even having a little zoom. Plus I have my sks thst I can shoot irons with if I really want. Makes sense to have magnification on this one
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u/gregarious01 May 31 '26
I have the vortex venom 1-6 on mine and it works great. I would rather have the chance to tighten the accuracy especially with a gun that can move around a bit with the stock.
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u/dke783 May 30 '26
(I love this saddle brown wrapping you've done!)
LPVO: have you had good experiences with a flip-aside mount on a magnifier/red dot setup?
I've always wondered if two flip-aside mounts (working in tandem) would successfully host an LPVO scope and retain zero over time.
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u/BowFella May 30 '26
Reddot is realistically only good for 100 yards for precision. They're great for PCCs but I prefer an LVPO on a rifle
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u/Edmonton_outdoorsman May 30 '26
Depends on your use case, but I'd personally go with the lpvo