r/canadaguns • u/IndiscreetTreat • May 18 '26
News / Politics / Activism Is this the time all the manufacturers crawl outta the woodwork with all these tempting rifles?
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u/rastamasta45 May 19 '26
Someone is informing Nat like they did Bush. “A second rifle just hit the market”
100% she’s have a massive meltdown
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u/NEUMANN-METALWORKS Neumann Metalworks May 19 '26
I want her to make a public appearance again, seeing her rage on camera and embarrass herself was amazing.
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May 19 '26
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u/jwubadubdub May 21 '26
Orrr, and call me crazy here, you can stop giving power to their silly, name calling, social marxist behaviour.
Sticks and stones my guy
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u/SmoothCriminalAaron May 19 '26
Well hopefully like Bush she sits there and sings Old MacDonald or whatever.
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u/EnvironmentBright697 May 19 '26
Need a new mag fed semi .308 to hit the market
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u/Bull-RunTheJewels May 19 '26
The Browning BAR MK4 DBM is on its way. Now we just need someone to make a tactical stock and hand guard for it
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u/Savings-Garbage-628 May 19 '26
That's sick. I haven't heard that these were coming to Canada. Is this from an importer?
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u/Flashy_Inspector115 May 19 '26
Ive heard something along the lines of someone bought a bunch of 18.5in models to be imported to Canada at shot show
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u/Bull-RunTheJewels May 19 '26
There were a bunch of retailers that had preorders for a limited run from browning but due to high demand, they will be doing a larger release in the fall or into 2027 or something. Just read that yesterday.
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u/IRUNGUNSAZ Business Account May 19 '26
Browning BAR DBM. For the win.
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u/CryptidWorks CryptidWorks May 20 '26
Can we get a version that doesn't use $320 mags? Like, I dunno, AR10 mags which are cheap and readily available?
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u/Nilotaus May 31 '26
Where the magazine release latches onto for the DBM mags sits lower compared to AR-10/SR-25 magazines, so it's not quite going to be simple as a drop-in replacement as some machining is definitely going to be involved.
It's within the realm of possibility compared to a citadel ad500 with it's single-stack mags, at least. Though how the follower presents the rounds in the dbm mags could be an issue.
I don't expect such a mag adapter to be coming out anytime soon if someone does decide to have a go at it.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Tie35 May 20 '26
I'm just waiting for someone to clone the SLB2000. I'm pretty sure the patents are up, and because of how it's designed, swapping the mag well wouldn't be too difficult.
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u/rastamasta45 May 19 '26
God so man doomers on here “it’s going to get banned” or “it’ll be banned by December”
So what, it’s a quality semi auto 5.56 using STAMAGS and it’s NR m, meaning it’s yours forever. Buy it, love it and keep it, even if there’s an oic, they can’t take it.
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u/Dill_Pickle_Tears May 20 '26
Fr. Anything that might be ban-safe: “fuck-ugly Turkish garbage”, and any time a quality manufacturer takes a risk or imports: “it’ll be insta-banned, don’t even try” and “waaa Canada sucks”
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u/HappyCan7250 May 25 '26
That's exactly my thought on it.
If the past sets any precedent, even if it does get banned, I'll still get to LARP around the house for a decade first. Government moves slower then a snail. Plus, as little faith as I have in Carney and the LPC, I think they know further bans are just not feasible. As I said, I have very little faith in any common sense in the LPC, but I think anyone in the party with half a brain has realized they're now stuck holding a hot potato and just want this issue to go away.
Still no plan whatsoever of how to collect these guns, and that October deadline is coming up pretty fast. I did see Carney announced "hiring 1000 RCMP personnel", although no timeframe or info was provided. He's also been claiming they're doing that for a year now, but it did make me wonder "are these 1000 new personnel going to be solely dedicated to hunting down some of your best citizens?"
Hell, at least if they throw 2.5mil gun owners in jail, we all get to live and eat on the taxpayers dime for once.
I'd be honoured to share a jail cell with you all. It would make for some fun times I think.
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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn May 19 '26
Cant wait to get these on the shelf!
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u/Medical_Banana1586 May 19 '26
When do we expect to see these in locally?
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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn May 19 '26
Ill find out today but id be surprised if NS wasnt trying to match Gravel's timeline with the mk15s
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u/SpectreBallistics Spectre Ballistics International (Verified) May 19 '26
About time the FRT for this was released.
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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn May 19 '26
Me too i need to see bulk 556 and 223 moving again. We took a huge hit when all them 9mm and 556s went away
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u/Goliad1990 May 19 '26 edited May 19 '26
If OICs don't get these, the classification review will.
The "made before December 2023" (or whatever the date was) clause, that these rifles depend on, is going to get stripped out. It was only in there as a deception tactic to con the NDP into voting for the bill, it was never intended to stay.
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u/Reasonable_Hall2346 May 19 '26
They would have to deliver another OIC or legislation that explicitly bans these. With the SCC case pending don’t think we will see an OIC this year. Although they still have not capitalized on the Tumbler Ridge shooting so maybe they will use that for an excuse to drive whatever they want.
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u/Q-Ball7 In the end, it's taxes all the way down May 19 '26
Although they still have not capitalized on the Tumbler Ridge shooting
They can't- they shut the door on the "evil men shoots helpless women" angle by calling the shooter a woman, and as a result would prefer you forget that.
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u/Goliad1990 May 19 '26
With the SCC case pending don’t think we will see an OIC this year
Why not? Why would that stop them?
Although they still have not capitalized on the Tumbler Ridge shooting so maybe they will use that for an excuse
We're well past the point of excuses.
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u/Infinite_Price_3550 May 19 '26
Does this have a FRT yet?
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u/IndiscreetTreat May 19 '26
I assume since north Sylva is now advertising a price but I haven’t checked the actual FRT yet.
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 May 19 '26
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u/griffin86666666 May 19 '26
Correct. It copied and pasted wrong. It even gave me a different number when I tried again today.
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u/Azndude50 May 19 '26
Lost my AR, FX9 and Bren 2. Not sure if I can go through it all again. 😓
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u/IndiscreetTreat May 19 '26
We’re all in the same boat, if you don’t have the expendable income then don’t do it. I know I definitely won’t be doing both this AND the Makasi. Gonna have to just choose one and stick with it unless I win a mini lottery all of a sudden.
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u/Flat-Dark-Earth Big Bore Specialist May 19 '26
Only 3? You still have blood to give.
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u/Helpful-Sock-4988 May 19 '26
i "lost" 11 guns and am considering making it 12 lmao.
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u/AdeptArt May 20 '26
hell yeah brother. If nobody buys then all the businesses die & we won’t even have the chance to buy. Keep putting up the good fight.
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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn May 20 '26
Preach! We need the support to keep the fight going.
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u/Dave_JSL May 21 '26
How’ did you lose those three beauties? You can always not comply with buy back program and just make it safe queens until next election.
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u/Flat-Dark-Earth Big Bore Specialist May 19 '26
As long as the designs predate Dec 2024 and meet the requirements of NR they could technically be approved.
It won’t stop the government from retroactively banning them after the fact though.
Trying to think what else was submitted for submission around that time.
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u/i-Hermit May 19 '26
So any "newly designed" semi autos can't receive a FRN?
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u/Flat-Dark-Earth Big Bore Specialist May 19 '26
If they are new designed semi autos designed for “>5 round mag capacity” then they will be given a FRT entry but as prohibited.
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u/Fuck_you_all22 May 19 '26
Well... will the liberals do oic again or instruct rcmp do frt ban? I hope carney is too busy keeping his elbows up, but with that crazy woman the outcome is more or less expected. I sincerely hope i am wrong.
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u/Cre_AK47 Name Prohibited by OIC May 19 '26 edited May 19 '26
I mean I'm glad I got a good paying job now, but man nearly $3000 after tax on a semi-auto is wild work...
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u/Steelringin May 19 '26
16" version is 8lb2oz unloaded. She thicc!
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u/HappyCan7250 May 25 '26
Which is what surprises me, because the Carmel uses a pencil profile barrel by the look of it, and a polymer receiver. I was expecting it to weigh in at closer to 6lb, maybe 7 max. Surprisingly heavy for all the weight reduction in it.
That's why I'm going for the Mk15 instead, not a huge fan of polymer receivers and it doesn't even seem to keep the gun light, and the Mk15 at least uses a government profile barrel, while not ideal, has a lot more mass than that pencil profile at least. Comparing the 2 rifles side by side, at least by images, the Mk15 looks to have a much heavier profile barrel. Better for semi auto.
Hell, I get my 223 bolt gun barrels pretty hot even, I'd get a pencil profile on a semi auto burning hot real fast!
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u/Bate_Hoomers May 20 '26
I want galil :(
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u/HappyCan7250 May 25 '26
Mk15 sort of has a Galil look going on, in my mind at least. Sort of like a Galil/M4/FAL. Let the Mk15 scratch that itch for now.
Or go snap up a Valmet for $20k. Last one I saw for sale was $20k!!! Nuts.
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u/IndiscreetTreat May 19 '26
Haha for me I think it looks SO chunky. The x95 hand guard is already not the easiest to c clamp, thus one doesn’t seem any better.
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u/Apologetic-Moose May 19 '26
Apparently they're proper boat anchors and not really worth the squeeze compared to other modern designs... but that's coming from Americans, so who knows how it stacks up specifically against the Makasi, or anything else available here.
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u/Flat-Dark-Earth Big Bore Specialist May 19 '26
Apparently they often go on sale stateside for $1000 USD as they aren’t selling well.
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u/Office_Responsible May 19 '26
With plenty of AR’s to choose from it’s not hard to see why anything else would struggle. Plus the cost. PSA floods the markets with ARs at half that cost or less.
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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn May 20 '26
Not just plenty of ARs but cheap, quality brand name ARs to boot.
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u/Slowisfast_2021 May 21 '26
A lot of talk here about these and the Makasi getting banned by OICs or when the LPC change the firearms classification laws. I don’t think it’s going to be that easy.
How will they address the substantial number of semi automatic rifles in Canada? Another buyback is not going to happen. So the only other alternative is just straightforward confiscation. Grandfathering is another option but Nathalie will not allow it.
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u/rastamasta45 May 22 '26
Or the third option, we buy and hold for better days, the NR rifles will never disappear, but governments sure do
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u/KJTheDayTrader May 19 '26
So something like this is legal but a 1940 SVT-40 isn't? Make it make sense
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u/jollygreengiant1655 May 19 '26
Unless you're new here, you should know that common sense is not required in governance in this country.
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u/greasygreenbastard May 19 '26
you need to make an account to view their website products?
Super sus ngl... 😬😬
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u/Big-Guitar-1979 May 19 '26
Possible to get B&T 223 back? I dream of having it
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u/IndiscreetTreat May 19 '26
That one got banned by name so no, I highly doubt we’ll see any of them ever again until a change in government or the CCFR wins the court case.
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u/HappyCan7250 May 25 '26
I'm really curious to see this court case play out. I think it's right after the deadline? Because I want the court to see how badly they stiff any owners who signed up.
Any non ideological, unbiased court, should cancel these bans immediately. It also came out a bit ago, that the government is even stiffing business owners now too on any parts.
We don't have a right to private property in Canada (sadly, and stupidly), but I believe we do have the right to be fairly compensated for private property if the government does decide it needs to "expropriate" it.
Let's just hope the court strikes it down, or says "you have to pay EVERYONE market value", and our government realizes they're too broke to do that and at least grandfather's us all.
Weird how they grandfathered guys with full autos, but God forbid Jimmy in northern Saskatchewan gets to keep his dangerous GSG16!
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u/ablemount May 20 '26
Chipmunk and Nat-a-lie chatting, "Disarming the peasants is a tricky business!"
/s (but true)
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u/Tookan_ May 23 '26
is it just me or does CRAFM's website show the words "Kel-Tec CNC Inc." on the side of their Carmel preorder image?
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u/Inevitable_Edge6857 May 25 '26
Ngl I hate the look of this gun but it’s IWI and semi auto so why not
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u/IndiscreetTreat May 25 '26
So do I, the proportions bother me. Hence I’ll be getting the Makasi.
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u/Inevitable_Edge6857 May 25 '26
Have to agree. You could probably build the Masaki to be pretty indestructible considering all AR parts
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u/GapSouth4305 May 20 '26
Meh fuck Israel, this ain't it.
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u/adrenalineJ92 May 20 '26
Why is that?
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May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26
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u/GapSouth4305 May 20 '26
Never used tiktok in my life man, what an assumption. There's two countries generally against most human-rights, the US and Israel. Sorry that as a father of a little girl I don't feel like having my dollars going to bomb some all-girls schools.
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u/HappyCan7250 May 25 '26
What are you rambling on about man? The US against human rights? The country that actually properly protects freedom of speech, and grants it's citizens the most basic right, or defending themselves? (Both against criminals, and the government).
Yeah okay man, tell me more about how the US doesn't respect human rights, while our own government tries to criminalize speech. Hilarious.
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u/GapSouth4305 May 20 '26
Are you actually asking or trying to argue in bad faith?
I'm trying to Google articles about Israel bombing schools to find a specific one I'm thinking of. I can't find the attack because I'm flooded with hundreds of stories of Israel doing the same shit over and over again to other schools, that's why.
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u/LordRaizer May 23 '26
I don't like Israel either, but this is a kinda "separate the art from the artist" kinda situation eh?
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u/HappyCan7250 May 25 '26
I personally could care less where the rifle is made.
For God's sake, we're all running around with SKS that were probably made by political prisoners and imprisoned peasants by the Soviets.
Kinda had to preach about morals when buying guns, when our most popular rifle in the country, is made by the CCP and USSR, who have committed much bigger atrocities.
I like guns, don't really care who makes the model I want.
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u/[deleted] May 19 '26
There must be 100’s of semi autos out there still, designed before 2022, that we can bring in. Just need to submit to the RCMP and pray.