r/canadaguns • u/BrotherLefthand • Apr 27 '26

News / Politics / Activism Escaping the Gun Debate Trap | David Yamane | Bridging the gap on politics.

https://youtu.be/BzB8MX4v8ko?si=QWHy-SNhCIq5FO82

Bill C-21 and the OIC has been a significant topic in the house of commons. Regardless of which side of the aisle you stand, the conversations about guns are often polarized and emotionally charged. Misunderstandings on both sides can lead to mistrust, oversimplified stereotypes, and policies that fail to reflect the complexity of the issue. Encouraging dialogue rooted in respect, education, and shared values can help create a more informed and constructive public conversation.

Please watch the attached video and consider what Professor Yamane has to say. If we can bridge the gap between the most polarized on the firearms spectrum, I believe we can make better policy to benefit Canada.

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u/FluffyPlays22 Apr 27 '26

We sure can make better policy to benefit Canada, it's called repealing bill c21 and the OICs. Canada does not have a legal gun problem, it has an illegal gun problem.

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u/HanzG Apr 27 '26

If we take away the guns, we will still be a country plagued by criminals. If we put away the criminals we will no longer have a gun problem.

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u/prosper_0 Apr 27 '26

If we put away the criminals we will no longer have a gun problem.

or a government....

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u/JurboVolvo Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 29 '26

Prisons don’t solve the problem of crime or the USA wouldn’t have any crime at all. Not a fan of facts eh?

These are the stats:

The United States holds one of the highest incarceration rates globally, with approximately 1.8 million people in prison or jail as of 2025-2026, often ranking in the top 5 worldwide. While representing only about 4% of the world's population, the U.S. has often held around 20% of the world's prisoners, significantly outpacing other countries.

Comparison to Others: The U.S. holds the largest number of prisoners globally, with over 1.8 million in adult facilities. China, which has a population over four times larger, is estimated to have a lower number of sentenced prisoners (1.69 million in 2018), though comparisons are difficult due to data transparency.

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u/Independent-Bid-916 Apr 27 '26

The US has an education problem and a highly transient population.

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u/HanzG Apr 28 '26

America has a plethora of problems stemming from their very beginning. Unfortunately its a bell that cannot be unrung. I do believe they could fix it if they wanted to. But I also believe that elites in the US are exploiting their own population for their personal gain.

Not that the Liberals aren't stacking the deck in their favor in the same way right now, but that's another discussion.

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u/Nilotaus May 01 '26

The reason why American prisons don't work is because rehabilitation was never the intended goal for them in the first place.

It's meant as a mark you are branded with the moment you are incarcerated that is nigh-impossible to remove even after you are released. The 13th amendment & prisoners being stripped of their voting rights in many parts of the USA despite serving their time is a pretty strong indicator to the real intention of imprisonment.

Compare that to prisons in Nordic countries where prisoners go through the effort to break out of their cells, just to bake a cake in the kitchen.

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u/JurboVolvo May 01 '26

Right! And you can’t get housing or jobs afterwards also leading to a cycle of poverty and crime. While private prison profits take off.

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u/Outrageous_Lie_979 Apr 28 '26

Do you think everyone that’s commits a crime with a gun wakes up that day and plans on killing somebody? Sometimes getting drunk and having a gun handy is enough to turn a church going guy into a prisoner. But if he didn’t have access to a gun he might not be a criminal.

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u/HanzG Apr 28 '26 edited May 28 '26

Canada has just fine storage laws for legal owners. No legal gun is ever out in public or where you'd get drunk. I wake up with guns every morning. I've gotten drunk plenty of times. I don't want to kill anyone, nor do I think "hey there's a shotgun in my truck, I should just shoot this guy." Because we're not the problem. But it's ME you're talking about taking guns away from. And just a few of my guns. I have many, many more. So even if 100% of this plan went perfectly you have not disarmed me. You've just taken about $4000 of my stuff. Remember this campaign is not aimed at Johnny Criminal with a smuggled Glock. Not Karen Krime who deals drugs downtown with a revolver in her pocket. Nope - they're fine. But father & family man, mechanic and part time farmer Hanz? He can't have those guns. They want to take Mrs. Hanz stuff too. A woman manager of incredible skills, education and accreditation in charge of millions of dollars of inventory... she can't be trusted.

However if you remove Karen and Johnny from society you will be safer.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '26

Ya but that extremely hypothetical anecdote pretty much never happens as evidenced by our publicly available statistics.

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u/Hopeful_Relation_441 Apr 27 '26

the current liberals have no issues with illegal guns.. they are already banned.... therefore a police matter.. what the minster of gophers and pop cans was saying its a Legal gun problem as they they one mental health episode from going Postal

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a8kkVHVAbXI

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u/Nilotaus May 01 '26 edited May 04 '26

its a Legal gun problem as they they one mental health episode from going Postal

I've never seen this type of talk about vehicles from the Lapu Lapu tragedy in Vancouver or the U-Haul rental van attack in Toronto

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u/Hopeful_Relation_441 May 01 '26

police and military are also in the same

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u/BrotherLefthand Apr 27 '26

The problem as I see it is that there is still a massive gap between us and the average person. This has been created by the most polarizing on either end of the debate spectrum. Unfortunately, our politicians aren't helping.

We need to bridge that gap and find a way where the average person doesn't feel afraid of firearms. We don't need them to become an owner, we just need them to understand how the laws work and understand how 95% of the community are law-abiding.

Sadly, we're plagued by the social burden put on us by the worst offenders.