Genuinely curious on liberal views of gun laws

[u/Callie7680]

Hello all. Looking for a debate on the other side of all of the gun laws / bans from a liberal point of view. How does it ACTUALLY make sense to liberals with the current laws. C21 was passed with hopes of lowering crime? How is that going? The OIC. How has the crime rate gone since? How are these “liberal experts” in power thinking this is actually going to make a difference? Canada could 100% ban every single firearm and gun crime would not go down 1 bit. I don’t really know any liberals to talk about it with I’d actually like to hear their side on it. I’m clearly not an expert on any of this but it just seems so ridiculous

[u/Zestyclose_Glass_809]

Here is the full paragraph about firearms from the conservatives for your pleasure.

1. Firearms A Conservative Government is committed to cost-effective gun control programs designed to keep guns out of the hands of criminals while respecting the rights of law-abiding Canadians to own and use firearms responsibly. Measures will include: mandatory minimum sentences for the criminal use of firearms; strict monitoring of high-risk individuals; increased enforcement and prosecution of smuggling; safe storage provisions; 32 firearms safety training; a certification screening system for all those wishing to acquire firearms legally; and putting more law enforcement officers on our streets. We recognize the legitimacy of private ownership of firearms and will resist any domestic or international pressure to the contrary. A Conservative government will not deprive Canadian Citizens of legally owned firearms. A Conservative government recognizes that civilian firearms ownership is a Canadian Heritage. A Conservative government would streamline Firearms classification by adopting the Simplified Classification System. A Conservative government would order a review of firearms related laws to identify parts of those Acts that have no public safety value.

[u/Claus-Buchi → u/Zestyclose_Glass_809]

Weird that doesn’t show up on Google for my search, they gotta work on their SEO

[u/Zestyclose_Glass_809 → u/Claus-Buchi]

Well if you look up their policy it’s the first search result….

[u/Claus-Buchi → u/Zestyclose_Glass_809]

Even when I search “conservative firearm policy” it’s 5th and it’s just their policy declaration. The average person is not looking up the conservative’s policy declaration. If they really cared about getting these bans reversed, they’d be doing more. I am not defending the liberal firearm policy, but the conservatives are not trying very hard to get it reversed.

[u/Zestyclose_Glass_809 → u/Claus-Buchi]

I don’t think the conservatives should scream about the firearm policy as their number one priority, so I think what they’re doing is adequate. The ones who were serious about the topic and took the time to read a policy don’t need it shoved in their face. As well, the ones who don’t care much about firearms don’t need it shoved in their face as well.

[u/Claus-Buchi → u/Zestyclose_Glass_809]

Having proper SEO is not screaming about it, it’s literally getting the people who are looking into specific issues the answers they want

[u/Zestyclose_Glass_809 → u/Claus-Buchi]

That’s what a policy declaration is for. Most voters are lazy in this country and won’t bother educate themselves when the CBC dictates to the population that Carney is the only man that’s going to deal with trumps shenanigans.

[u/Claus-Buchi → u/Zestyclose_Glass_809]

I don’t know how you can have it both ways, somehow their lack of expression on this issue is strength? I don’t see how them not talking about It is a good thing. If they were more vocal about it, maybe I would’ve voted for them. Why would I vote for a party based on firearms when they never speak about firearms?

[u/Zestyclose_Glass_809 → u/Claus-Buchi]

They do talk about it, they just don’t make it their sole identity. To the liberals it’s a wedge issue(hence why they get so emotional about it). Conservatives just want to make it make sense.

[u/Claus-Buchi → u/Zestyclose_Glass_809]

I mean, the fact that they only have a couple sentences when I google “conservative firearms” says otherwise.