r/canadaguns • u/rastamasta45 • Apr 07 '26
News / Politics / Activism Examining the shortcomings of the Liberal gun buyback program | Watch News Videos Online
https://globalnews.ca/video/11767563/examining-the-shortcomings-of-the-liberal-gun-buyback-program/48
u/thxxx1337 Apr 07 '26
2 bills.... Even if you're antigun you should be morally outraged at this misrepresentation of tax paper money.
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u/Unfortunate_Sex_Fart al Apr 07 '26
Bro anyone who is anti gun is really only upset this program isn’t going far enough.
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u/JurboVolvo Apr 07 '26
2500 dead from firearms since 2016 vs 60,000 dead from the OD crisis since 2016 So are we gonna get 48 Billion for the OD crisis?
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u/theubu Apr 07 '26
How many of those were from PAL holders, or even those stolen from PAL holders? Have a feeling that 2500 number would be a lot lower with that taken into account.
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u/goodfleance Apr 07 '26
Not sure exactly but the last window I looked at had around 280 firearm deaths and only 2-3 were linked to licensed gun owners. So about 1% of firearms deaths, and firearms are only used in around 3% of violent crimes.
So we're around 1% of 3% of violent crime
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u/FromDeepestFathom Apr 07 '26
To be clear to the reader, 1% of 3% IS NOT 1/3rd. It is a very very tiny number, 0.03% of all violent crimes in Canada.
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u/JurboVolvo Apr 08 '26
I’ve heard 75-80% of firearms deaths are suicide in Canada. Likely a pretty good chunk of those are PAL holders. That being said what are we doing to properly fund mental healthcare? Fix the issues that lead to people making that choice?
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u/Juice1984 on CSSA menber Apr 07 '26
There mostly pal holders. Suicides account for 90 of firearms deaths here other 9 is accident. Rest murder
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u/uber_poutine Apr 07 '26
I'm a simple guy, I see a Noah Schwartz interview and I updoot.
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u/Ov3rReadKn1ght0wl Apr 07 '26
His books on the topic are pretty rad if you haven't had a chance to read them yet.
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u/Lashiech Apr 07 '26
Well I'll be, actual proper journalism on this topic.
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u/airchinapilot Apr 07 '26
Give credit to the author who published the study / book otherwise journalists would have to do their own original research
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u/Lashiech Apr 07 '26
Credit to both imo. The journalist clearly read the research based on how pointed her questions were.
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Apr 07 '26
the interview was great, even the lady asked great questions, but I do with it was longer.
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u/rastamasta45 Apr 07 '26
The LPC have completely lost the narrative war on this, it’s time to pack it up
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Apr 07 '26
nah, I think they should double down for the 10th time, im sure it will work eventually lol.
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u/Late_Winner6859 Apr 07 '26
Well, they do seem to treat our tax money as an infinite resource for their publicity stunts. And average voters don’t seem to care
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u/Scott-YYC Apr 07 '26
I'm looking forward to Gary eating a $hit sandwich.
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u/prosper_0 Apr 07 '26
He's not the fanatic, just a professional liar. He has no personal attachment to the program or its aims, and he's fully aware that it's all pointless and untrue. Therefore, I don't forsee him getting unhinged at all, just moving on to the next grift.
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u/Armed_Accountant Whoever wants to touch my guns has to touch me first. Apr 07 '26
Careful what you wish for, he will be replaced by Natty.
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u/Scott-YYC Apr 07 '26
It might be beneficial to gun owners if Nathalie Provost's untreated mental illness and PTSD was put on full display for the public. Then even non-gun owners might question who's driving the bus and the reasons for it.
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u/dgod40 Apr 07 '26
No way do we want this to happen. The general public will see her as a victim of a horrible gun attack and sympathize with her. They will see her as a champion of a cause to save their darling children from crazed gunmen meanwhile turn a blind eye to all the issues that are actually ruining their children's futures and possibly get their kids killed.
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u/Unfortunate_Sex_Fart al Apr 07 '26
No PS minister before him has had to. I don’t see how he would have to. He’ll get parachuted into another position and another patsy will take his place and continue the downward trajectory.
What bothers me the most is how unserious the Liberal party is when it comes to the public safety file. Every PS minister has been so goddam incompetent; Ralph Goodale was the most competent one we ever had under this party. We’re talking about Canadian lives being at stake with this file and it’s the biggest fucking idiots who are put in charge who seem to care about anything other than our actual safety.
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u/613mitch Apr 07 '26
Both the host and guest in this clip were absolutely fantastic. Definitely also seems the host has a much better notes or understanding of core issues than we normally see in conversations in the media on this topic.
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u/NEUMANN-METALWORKS Neumann Metalworks Apr 07 '26
He made a great point, that regardless of all of this nonsense purposefully creating tension between gun owners and the RCMP is a horrible idea. That is called provocation, and if RCMP get sent door to door people will die, that is sadly a guarantee. The government should be working to increase relations between police and gun owners, not start shit and try to sic their dogs on us.
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u/dgod40 Apr 07 '26
Why does anyone think the RCMP is going door to door to confiscate the firearms? They have never said that to my knowledge.
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u/Hardwater_Hammer Apr 07 '26
They've said it many times. When the RCMP and others said no we wont do that then they shifted to say we will get retired RCMP to go confiscate the weapons.
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u/dgod40 Apr 07 '26
They said they would be going door to door with retired officers to go get the firearms that were declared through the ASFCP. If you have information that says otherwise, I'd love to see it.
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u/FiresprayClass Apr 07 '26
Because they are the Federal law enforcement agency and the Federal government they answer directly to can tell them what to do.
They don't have to tell you that in advance.
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u/Bitter_Lettuce2970 Apr 07 '26
Cool they used a handgun photo when this has nothing to do with them. Just use that one AR15 stock photo like everyone else.
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u/Curious_Fail_3723 Apr 07 '26
Great...now I'm worried they'll go after 3D printers next. Because you know we just can't have nice things.
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u/dgod40 Apr 07 '26
Whenever i talk to people about this, they think I'm crazy. They see a 3D printer as a device to make articulating toys. I use mine as a tool to make useful things as well as toys. The government sees it as Genies lamp to make ghost guns. We all know who makes the rules most of the time.
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u/Dill_Pickle_Tears Apr 07 '26
We gotta give Dr. Schwartz a huge thank you for getting out there and presenting evidence informed talking points in such a clear and objective manner.
He’s also doing really good work for both gun owners AND public safety advocates by touching on the efficacy and economic impact of community programs in stopping violent crime.
Regardless of whether you own firearms or not, I think we can all say it’s better when the government spends money wisely, on initiatives that will ACTUALLY do something
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u/jay370gt Apr 07 '26
I wish we could send a $2B bill to the LPC and the unhinged lunatics at PolySeSouvient.
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u/Weak-Coffee-8538 Apr 07 '26
"$2,000,000,000 Billion dollars" and this will double or triple.
What a waste of money. Imagine all that money going to Street culture programs in our cities and communities.
The Minister of Nature and Minister of Public safety are out to lunch and need to be placed as back benchers.
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u/Unfortunate_Sex_Fart al Apr 08 '26
Only thing I don’t agree with is the notion that magazine capacity limits somehow prevent mass shootings.
The 2c rivet in every Pmag in Canada isn’t somehow preventing people from turning into a crazed lunatic.
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u/TarkovSundays Apr 08 '26
This has to set in motion a track reversal… this is catastrophic failure. I want 2020 back no reason for us not to own pistols
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u/T-Rex-Plays Apr 08 '26
Absolutely great advocacy by the policy expert. This is how we should argue our side. He did a great job of calmly explaining.
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Apr 07 '26
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u/Reasonable_Hall2346 Apr 07 '26
They are immune to scandals and corruption. I have no clue how. It’s a never ending list of things for them. Even now with the finance minister...
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u/Saucy__Intruder Apr 09 '26
I love that the cover image is an AI slop image of a type of firearm that is not even included in the confiscation scheme. Remember when accuracy, detail, and objective presentation of verified facts was a key component of journalism? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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u/rastamasta45 Apr 07 '26
Updated documents now saying the program is at $2 billion dollars