r/canadaguns • u/sirTaco418 • Apr 07 '26
Buy recommendations Leaned towards a Derya TM22, any tips?
New guy here, got my PAL and may be joining the reserves in a combat position. The 10/22 I don't find aesthetically pleasing imo, how's the Derya TM22 overall?
I like the "modern" look of it, and seems fun to use at the range, and feel like it'll be the "closest" to the CAF rifle so good for practicing with at the range. Any tips?
Also, anyone have any links to legal mods I can add onto it, like a laser scope, etc.? Or just in general, like good but cheap trigger locks and cases?
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u/quinner9191 Apr 07 '26
Bought the 16 inch 2 weeks ago. I have out about 400 rounds through it. Maybe 6 failures to feed. The build quality is actually pretty great. Feels higher quality than my 223 which is about 1k more in price. I had a ruger 10/22 and I just didn't enjoy the overall look of it. Tm22 scratches the tacticool itch.
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u/Small-Tomatillo-757 Apr 19 '26
I just got the A16 as well (16 inch barrel). Love the look and quality feel.
Put about 50 rounds through it on the weekend (CCI Standard Velocity) and did experience a few misfires - not failure to feed or eject. Just looks like a weak primer strike.
I know these guns need a break-in period but I would have thought it would be more on the feeding / ejecting side.
Time will tell.
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u/Spydude84 Apr 07 '26
Like everyone into tactical shooting has one. I got a 10/22 but had to go pick up a TM22 because they were pretty cool.
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u/-MoonGoon Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 08 '26
The Derya TM22 is more enjoyable straight out of the box. The 1022 is an infinitely better platform for aftermarket parts. Get the Derya TM22 if you want a ready to use gun. Get the 1022 if you want to customize it over time. A 1022 in a Spectre chassis is quite enjoyable.
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u/floppy_breasteses Apr 07 '26
Tm22 seems to be a mixed bag. I see a lot of light strikes and ejection problems. But when they work, they work well. My advice is to get one if you already have a 10/22. Otherwise, get the 10/22. More reliable and customizable.
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u/sirTaco418 Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
That's understandable, it's just that the 10/22 classic has that old wooden look that's not really my style.
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u/floppy_breasteses Apr 07 '26
The 10/22 comes in a million configurations. Check a few sources. There's the traditional wood stock, polymer stock, or several tactical stocks. Same gun, many outfits.
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u/sirTaco418 Apr 07 '26
Yes, I did see even with the tactical build that long, skinny barrel is not really my style.
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u/Agonizing-Stroke1812 Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
There is absolutely nothing on the market anymore that will compare to the AR15/M16 platform so that argument is futile. Especially not a rimfire. And if we're being real even having an actual AR platform in a range setting does next to nothing for the duties you'd realistically encounter in the CAF but that's besides the point.
As someone who also isn't crazy about the looks of the 10/22.. I finally sucked it up and got one after over 10 years of gun ownership. There's a reason they're the #1 semi auto .22. To this day I haven't had a single jam with a bone stock synthetic/stainless model.
On the other hand I have seen nothing but problems with turkish guns. Be it shotguns, handguns, or 22s
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u/CurlyWurly61 Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
I would get the TM22 18" full aluminum.
I would also go to an online retailer like G4C, TENDA, FireArmsOutletCanada and order a trigger lock, gun case, ammo box (buy a small lock for this too) ,Ear protection, Eye protection ,Ammo - CCI Standard Velocity or CCI Minimags
I'd get an extra magazine or 2 , Gun cleaning kit - CPL and Hoppes are great ....M-lok Bipod if you end up getting the 18" derya tm22
For mods, you can check out TommyEnterprises Amazon sells decent flashlights and lasers if thats what you'd like - m-lok connections that are picatinny mounts
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u/2016YamR6 Apr 07 '26
A lot of hate for the RF224 but I bought one and picked up CCI mini-mag ammo, I haven’t had a single FTE/FTF it’s worked absolutely flawless for the first 300 rounds. And it looks cool as shit, it’s small and light, probably the funnest thing I have to shoot right now. I couldn’t be happier with it.
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u/Status_Ticket5044 Apr 07 '26
There are mixed reports on reliability with genuine 10/22 mags. Mine is 0%.
100% with Adler rotary mags and 95% with 597s and the adapter. What's yours?
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u/2016YamR6 Apr 07 '26
I’ve only used the 2 Adler mags it came with, been looking to 3d print an adapter for my gsg 110 drum to make it fit
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u/HappyCan7250 Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
There's another new tactical 22 coming to the Canadian market by the way, might be worth looking at. You'd be the guinea pig but they look cool. The DM arms KR22 or T22 Tactical I think it's cslled. Looks like it might be based on the 10/22, appears to maybe use 10/22 mags, but has an Mlok/Picatinny handguard and a skeletonized stock. It actually looks pretty sweet but they'll be a totally new entry to our market. It's cool to have another option out there for a tactical rimfire though, as options are limited right now
The TM22 is pretty tried and true though. You could get the top charging handle kits, if you haven't seen them they let you add a rear/top handle for charging like an AR does. They look cool. Tommy Enterprises has them, and so does Alex's Homebrew. Alex's kit is all aluminum and about $200-250, Tommy uses some 3D printed parts which I'm not crazy about but it is a bit cheaper around $160. A TM22 with a top charging handle is about as close as you'll get to an AR training rifle nowadays.
The other option would be an MRA Renegade or Troy SAR, both in 223 (or 308). They're straight pull, but if you want to use it for rifle training, shooting 223 would probably be more beneficial vs 22lr. It'll get you familiar with the ballistics of 223 and get you familiar with STANAG style mags and to an extent, familiar with some AR/M16/M4 parts. Stripping them is similar to stripping an AR, and they both use some AR/mil spec parts (trigger, bolt,but not BCG), so you'll get a better idea of how to strip an AR style rifle with an MRA Renegade or a Troy SAR, although the MRA has better aftermarket and better support up here.
If you get the TM22 though, get the all aluminum 16" Pro model. The 16" barrel and short handguard, in my opinion, are much better than the 18" long handguard model. Don't get the Feather model despite it being cheaper as the whole rifle (the receiver!) is polymer and it almost feels like a toy. I've owned all 3, the 18" original, the 18" feather model, and a 16" Pro model and the 16" is my favourite. Apparently they are releasing a 12" model later this year that will be available and legal in Canada as well
You could also look at the Alcor and kit it out with a pistol grip and mlok handguard. It's very different from an AR but it's the only semi auto 223 available basically.
Or an SKS is also always an option, despite being older, it's still a military semi auto rifle and would be the closest thing to an "assault rifle", to use Liberal terms.