r/canadaguns • u/Elbro_16 • Mar 11 '26

Application / Regulation advice Backland Hunter FRT

Can anyone confirm with knowledge if a crusader arms backland hunter has been submitted for a FRT? Maybe perhaps a resticted model, or I remember with the crypto that marster or some other company had submitted one.

Just curious, please no comments about don’t need frt blah blah. I won’t to know if anyone knows of one being submitted or not.

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u/PT6A-27 Mar 11 '26

What difference does it make? If it got submitted for an FRT, it’ll inevitably get banned as an AR variant. If it didn’t get submitted for an FRT, it’ll get banned by OIC when the Liberals do the next round of bans; which, considering they’re about to get their majority government, probably isn’t too far away.

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u/Elbro_16 Mar 11 '26

I’d like to wait for how they classify it, they might surprise us. Then we just wait for another oic in the future IF it happens

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u/PT6A-27 Mar 11 '26

If the Stirling Arms R9 MK1 can be banned as an AR-180B variant despite sharing nothing in common with that design, the Backland Hunter doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell.

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u/Mammoth_Telephone_61 Mar 12 '26

If they ban the backland hunter wouldn’t they need to ban the m4 and all variants? As the backland hunter uses the m4 shot gun design?

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u/PT6A-27 Mar 12 '26

It doesn’t have to make any sense - there is no logic or rationality behind the FRT system.

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u/Lumindan Mar 12 '26

You're expecting reason in a vibe based argument.

The reality is they can ban whatever they want when they want with a handful of exceptions due to optics

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u/Elbro_16 Mar 11 '26

I learned that your better off waiting for an frt then not. Atleast if it’s designated NR then you wait for libs to oic it.

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u/Reasonable_Hall2346 Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 12 '26

Haha. Nope they don’t need an OIC, as the frt can be changed anytime without due process. Take a look at the N4S shotgun.

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u/MostEnergeticSloth Mar 12 '26

N4S, ATRS modern rifles, Derya MK12.... and countless others. Felt like every other week for the first year after the 2020 OIC they were editing the FRT to "make" more prohibs.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '26

FRT? the arbitary RCMP ban list refrence table? I hope no Canadian guns ever get to that chopping list ever

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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Mar 12 '26

You know that the Liberals can override the FRT at any moment, right?

For example, the RCMP decided that the GSG-16 is perfectly legal as it's not a variant of a prohibited firearm (MP5). So the Liberals created a new prohibited paragraph to overrule that and ban the GSG-16 by name instead.

Even if the FRT makes everything non-restricted today, Gary "RPAL" Public Safety himself can override it at the stroke of a pen.

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u/LongRoadNorth Mar 11 '26

For the sake of anyone buying one, I hope not. Cause they'll probably ban it.

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u/Ov3rReadKn1ght0wl Mar 12 '26

An FRT is only really valuable for imported firearms, as they effectively can't enter our market without one. However, recent events suggest the FRT can be changed on a whim, so that value is minimal even if there is one.

Use armalytics.ca to browse the FRT to see although it's not immediately updated.

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u/Lumindan Mar 11 '26

The FRT isn't any kind of protection. If the liberals want it banned, they tell the rcmp boys to do it.

Even if there was one, they can just flip it's status overnight via a name ban. Or they declare it a variant.

There's literally no standard. If you want it. Buy it.

That being said, I wouldn't support crusader in any capacity given their previous problems.