r/canadaguns Mar 11 '26

Buy recommendations We can get 25 rd 10/22 mags again now??

The ruger charger is effectively banned as the libs cucked the handguns. So now that its not available that makes the 1022 normal capacity mags available again right?

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u/swift_gilford Mar 11 '26

logic left the chat on this whole discussion decades ago

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u/stevedrums Mar 11 '26

Yeah. In 1977 or thereabouts

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u/WhackDanielz I <3 shitposts Mar 11 '26

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u/Cre_AK47 Name Prohibited by OIC Mar 11 '26

Not a lawyer: The Charger pistol is still legally classified as Restricted. The Charger pistol was never really "commonly available" nor in common use before the handgun ban, but same could have been said about the LAR-15 "pistol". That said, the LAR-15 is now legally classified as prohibited, and no longer commonly available so theoretically we could see ourselves in a situation after the amnesty expires where LAR-15 mags that have 6+ (10) rounds will become prohibited devices while the current cap on 10/22 mags will remain in effect.

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u/Weary_OLeary Mar 11 '26

In a similar vein, what are your thoughts on potential mag capacity changing for mags that are compatible between semi center fire and bolt/ straight pull/etc. once (if) the amnesty ends for all the prohib semis?

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u/Remarkable_Vanilla34 Mar 11 '26

Unlikely. They aren't prohibiting semi-automatic firearms officially, they are banning "assault style" firearms. They never have and never will define that as anything more than "what we decide is an assault rifle".

They won't open up magazine capacity, because 1) there are still semis on the market that use stanag mags 2) they might want to ban more guns later don't want to encourage you to own them 3) bill c21 is supposed to prohibited "high capacity" mags that have been restricted 4) the government hate guns and their owners and will always add more convoluted laws. They aren't ever going to do thing that make things better for us in any way.

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u/FenderFanatic Mar 11 '26

There are also still bolt actions that use stanag mags. I quite like my Ruger American Predator with LAR mags, more dead coyotes and less mag changes.

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u/Remarkable_Vanilla34 Mar 11 '26

That's what the guy was asking. Now that the majority of semi auto guns are banned will the government change the law to allow people to own 30 rounds mags 😆

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u/FenderFanatic Mar 11 '26

It appears I didn't read his comment lol. I guess I seen the lack of bolt guns in yours and decided to contribute. I wish I could get a 60 round drum for my bolt action.

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u/chillyrabbit Mar 12 '26

There have been prohibited handguns for years with 5+ round capacities.

Just because it isn't "commonly available" doesn't mean it would turn LAR 15 magazines into AR15 magazines.

People consistently and persistently misunderstand how the charger pistol and Lar pistol magazine capacities work.

Magazine capacity explanation

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u/Cre_AK47 Name Prohibited by OIC Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26

"Commonly available" is literally one of the conditions needed for a handgun to have a capacity of more than 5 rounds (Runkle Video). The difference is that those prohibited handguns are still in circulation and legally permitted by 12(6)/12(7) holders to continue owning them and using them at the range. As of October, the same cannot be said about any LAR-15 "pistols," which the government expects to be turned in or destroyed by then.

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u/MacWac Mar 12 '26

Charger pistol is now prohib not restricted ( as far as I know)

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '26

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '26

Tuf22 mag is the way to go. Pricey, but worth it.

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u/Whispersfine Mar 11 '26

I think all we need is working 597 mags lol

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u/BI0WEED Mar 11 '26

I have no issues with my stingers in the 597

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u/swift_gilford Mar 11 '26

by any chance, does SBI offer the 10/22 receiver modification to accept the 10/22 magazines?

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u/swift_gilford Mar 11 '26

Oh i know, i have a couple! they're great and i recommend them to others. It's just that I have some old factory actions collecting dust that i wouldn't mind bringing new life to lol.

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u/FullMetalLoaf nb Mar 11 '26

Dlask seemed to be the main supplier of the TUFF mags so that option is gone unless someone else picks up the ball.

Your adapter is great but the 3 mags bound up after 5 rounds. It's too bad you don't have one for gsg16 mags ;) ;)

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '26

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u/FullMetalLoaf nb Mar 11 '26

Bummer. Well I can certainly appreciate you guys putting in the effort. I just wished that I could have won the mag lottery lol.

Glad to hear that someone is picking up the ball with ipsic mini rifle being a thing now. Id love to run a 1022 platform but a 10 round mag would be a considerable disadvantage.

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u/Status_Ticket5044 Mar 11 '26

Where do you figure Alder got the idea to adapt the RF-224 to 597s? AND for all intents and purposes, their mags 1mm wider than BXs are proprietory. Why wouldn't they just copy the BX 15s and 25s, but 1 mm wider? More aftersales money in it for them....

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u/HappyCan7250 Mar 13 '26

Did Dlask go under?? That's a shame if they did. The 10" TM22 barrels were super sweet. 

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u/FullMetalLoaf nb Mar 17 '26

Retired and cleaning shop unfortunately. :(

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u/LLSWSIF Mar 24 '26

Noooooooooooooooo

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u/Flashy_Inspector115 Mar 11 '26

Do you have a handgun exemption letter? Even if you don't do you have any extra information on how to get one?

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u/Flashy_Inspector115 Mar 11 '26

Do you have any experience with ISSF?

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u/ohphee bc Mar 11 '26

Try the Shooting Federation of Canada website. You can also find a directory for local clubs that participate in shooting sports and ISSF matches there, along with information on gaining an exemption letter.

Find a pellet airgun club or a .22 club in your area at a local range and say hi. Someone might be able to point you in the right direction.

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u/Flashy_Inspector115 Mar 11 '26

Thanks for this information

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u/TheBoringOwl Mar 11 '26

Any chance you know when Magdump will be restocking the 597 adapters?

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u/MacWac Mar 12 '26

Are you sure, I have a charger pistol and it was listed as prohibited( if I am understanding things correctly)

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u/MacWac Mar 12 '26

Oh I see. Thanks for the clarification, and that makes way more sense!

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u/RelativeFox1 Mar 11 '26

When were hand guns banned?

They banned the sale of them. Not the ownership of them.

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u/JaxIsLoud Mar 11 '26

For some of us that's the same thing.

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u/RelativeFox1 Mar 11 '26

Yes, but not the same when it comes to “now there are no charger pistols” kinda statements

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u/Golanthanatos Mar 11 '26

Bx-25: designed and advertised for charger and 10/22, ergo considered hi cap pistol magazine and prohibited device.

Butler creeks 'hot lips': designed and advertised for 10/22 only, high capacity .22 rimfire magazine, legal. 

IANAL.

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u/shiddedandfarded69 Mar 11 '26

Can you get the hot lips mag in Canada? I thought we could only get the steel lips here.

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u/Golanthanatos Mar 11 '26

I couldn't remember if they differentiated between the plastic and steel ones, I thought they were all branded hot lips.

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u/BI0WEED Mar 11 '26

And they’re all Pinned

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u/saneboy Mar 11 '26

Now do LAR-15 mags since all AR patterned firearms are banned. I'd love to know where these stand.

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u/gnu_gai Mar 11 '26

There are NR manual action rifles that use 4179 type magazines

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u/Sco0basTeVen Mar 11 '26

The handguns are still able to be taken to the range and used if you owned them prior to the ban, so I don’t really see how that will affect anything.

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u/Remote_Mistake6291 Mar 11 '26

Just get the SBI adapter and run Remington 597 30 round drums.

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u/jaraxel_arabani Mar 11 '26

Best our govt can offer is single shot .22lr but only in wood trim

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u/drpestilence Mar 11 '26

Get a tuf 22 if dlask ever makes more. 25 round mags are legal for them.

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u/PageAggravating4460 Mar 11 '26

Forgive my ignorance but, are mags over 10 round capacity in .22lr illegal now? Or just the same as before if they cross platform to a pistol they are banned?

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u/mkgip Mar 11 '26

Mags themselves are not banned, they are pinned to 10 rounds now.

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u/PageAggravating4460 Mar 11 '26

I just looked it up and it says:

Exemptions: Rimfire magazines that cannot fit a pistol do not have a capacity limit.

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u/mkgip Mar 11 '26

You are right. The 20 round magazine for the savage 64 isn't pinned.