r/canadaguns • u/Bull-RunTheJewels • Mar 09 '26
Buy recommendations Browning BAR MK4 DBM
If Turkish semi automatics and Crusader arms are selling their semi autos for $2000, this seems like a better option for $2400 ish. I know it’s expensive but I’m willing to pay $400 more for a quality rifle. It’s a 308 with a detachable box magazine. There’s a couple places taking preorders. Delivery probably won’t be until November.
Obviously it’s expensive but what do you guys think about this rifle?
Also which colour should I get? I’m leaning toward the wood furniture but I also like the camo one with the light coloured barrel.
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Mar 09 '26
proof our politics are regarded. Its literally a (Now Banned) FNAR minus Pic Rails and pistol grip. Same lines, interchangeable mags, exact same mag release. But my hypothetical FNAR is banned? Get fucked
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u/Jay_Nicolas Mar 09 '26
no no, it's not the same at all! The FNAR is black and scary and automatically more dangerous because of it!!
/s in case that wasn't clear, reddit...
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Mar 09 '26
no its definitely the pistol grip because if you chsck last slide theres a black scary variant
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u/BigKWE Mar 10 '26
You just figured out our gun laws make no sense?! I've known for years and to save what little sanity I have have left I stopped asking why and who! I just accept that they don't want us to have any firearms of any kind and then try and work around it.
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u/HandSoloquatro Mar 09 '26
This is for a different class of buyers. Call it a white collar gun. If they banned these politicians and their friends would get mad ;)
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u/DoYouGetSarcasm Mar 09 '26
I believe this has an integrated pic rail
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u/CalibreMag Mar 09 '26
This is a Mk 4 BAR DBM.
The FNAR = Mk 3 BAR Match.
(Posted for those who were missing their daily dose of gun 'tism)
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u/Scary-Detail-3206 Mar 09 '26
Who is taking preorders for these? For research purposes.
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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn Mar 09 '26
Possibly us shortly. Waiting to hear back from the rep if this is still a thing
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u/MarkusFrodo Mar 09 '26
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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn Mar 09 '26
His answer so far has been "Maybe let me check into that"
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Mar 09 '26
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u/StevenMcStevensen al Mar 09 '26
Yup - if I ever hypothetically had an FNAR, it would have been mightily frustrating that additional magazines are virtually nonexistent.
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u/Flat-Dark-Earth Big Bore Specialist Mar 10 '26
Cheaper than my Sako and Sauer mags lol.
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Mar 10 '26
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u/Flat-Dark-Earth Big Bore Specialist Mar 10 '26
Some of the entry level bolt guns may share magazines, I’m not a too sure.
The 303 mags are proprietary.
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u/NIBLZ_HAMSTR Mar 09 '26
Crusader arms is a fucking hot mess... I know it may sound like im being dramatic, but buying one of their rifles was one of the biggest mistakes I've made in ages. Buyers regret doesn't quite cover it... I hate myself for not doing more research, although, when I did buy it, they were still relatively new. Total disaster.
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Mar 09 '26
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u/Weak_Flamingo_3031 Mar 09 '26
They only make them with 16 inch barrels not the 18.6 we need here to be non restricted.
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u/DoYouGetSarcasm Mar 09 '26
There is amk 4 dbm with a 20 or 22 inch barrel (can't remember which)
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Mar 09 '26
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u/DoYouGetSarcasm Mar 09 '26
I have no idea the markets but it exists with a 22 inch barrel. Maybe in the future in Canada?
https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/rifles/bar/bar-mk-4-dbm-speed.html
There are some with 18.5 barrels too. I don't know if they meet the 470mm (18.50394 inch) barrel length requirement to be non restricted.
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u/IntrepidKitchen5322 Mar 09 '26
I mean, what's the likelihood this will turn into an OIC'd paperweight?
Wood furniture looks classic, but a lightweight synthetic stock is what I'd be leaning on.
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u/He4vyD00dy Mar 09 '26
I don’t think we have the version with the detachable box mag in Canada just the hinge mag
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u/iatekane Mar 09 '26
The DBM version is coming but not here yet.
Browning did a special run of them with 18.5” barrels for us
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u/450k_crackparty Mar 09 '26
What.. this is news to me. The DBM has been around a long time but never in an NR length which is why no one ever really stocked them up here (to my knowledge). Now if only they'd make a version with irons as well...
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u/iatekane Mar 09 '26
Yup and I agree with irons would be good, could always add after market sights though.
Not sure when they’re coming but there are a few details offering pre orders right now
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u/strickenchips Apr 18 '26
The standard Mk4 DBM barrel length is 18.5". It's not a special run for Canada, which is good, because that means we can import ones from America.
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u/jinguslovesmeth Mar 10 '26
The liberal government will classify this as a nuclear weapon soon so if you want one maybe just rent one for a session instead
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u/Massive_Expression_2 Mar 09 '26
Nice. What calibres are available?
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u/Flat-Dark-Earth Big Bore Specialist Mar 10 '26
DBM Model is only offered in 308 as far as I know. 5 round detachable mags.
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u/Mr-Figglesworth Mar 09 '26
My buddy put a preorder in for one. I was kinda skeptical about it at first because I’d never heard of it but as someone else said I guess they made the barrel slightly longer for Canada. I was worried my buddy would have paid a down payment and then be getting stuck with a restricted rifle.
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Mar 09 '26
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u/Mr-Figglesworth Mar 09 '26
Dantesport from Montreal. I have never heard of or done business with them but that’s where he put the order in.
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u/Hell-Let-Loose00 Mar 09 '26
I preordered with Dante’s after the Vegas show - they told me evidently there are very few of the DBM models coming to Canada. Not sure how accurate that is but it might be a limited run.
https://dantesports.com/en/product/browning-bar-mk4-dbm-hunter/
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u/Flat-Dark-Earth Big Bore Specialist Mar 10 '26
Everyone remember the FNAR? This is basically the new FNAR. Seems like a good value.
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u/Fuck_you_all22 Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26
For just $400 more, any day. But no 223 nor stanag mag compatible. I think browning only markets non detachable magazine version in canada.
Edit : A proprietary DBM is $320. Yikes!
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u/escv_69420 Mar 10 '26
Check out the Infitech furniture for these. It's actually awesome.
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u/AllDay1980 Mar 11 '26
I couldn’t find anything for the MK4 just MK3
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u/escv_69420 Mar 11 '26
Hopefully they update it for mk4 because its really cool and doesn't even look like a lame cope build.
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u/jiggy7272 Mar 10 '26
Last I read when they first came out the rcmp classed these as Restricted due to the 18inch barrel length
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u/Dill_Pickle_Tears Mar 11 '26
I’ve seen these on Dante’s as a pre-order! I’ve wanted a DBM model so badly. They mentioned it’s a limited run in Canada - think these will be shipped in batches like marlins, or is this some kind of one-and-done situation? I’m praying it’s the former because these are a bit rich to my blood currently, but I’d sooner get the OVIX or hunter over the regular MK4 (still want a medallion though)
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u/Afrocowboyi Mar 11 '26
thanks Dante for the answer couldnt find anywhere regarding the R1. Made in Portugal.
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u/NorthwindX7 Mar 15 '26
Oh no.
Normally I'd be happy but I got one of the first ovix mk4's available hoping it wouldn't get banned since it has a hinged floor plate... Worried this is going to draw ban hammer attention to all models.
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u/Flashy_Inspector115 Mar 09 '26
If the Templar is banned for being a ar180 variant, this definitely is banned being a fnar variant.
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u/Bull-RunTheJewels Mar 09 '26
The BAR MK3 already exists and is not banned
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u/Flashy_Inspector115 Mar 09 '26
Who says? It might as well be banned. Just because retailers stock it, it doesn't mean its unbanned. I lost my crypto to prohibition this way.
There is a better argument for banning this than the Templar that doesn't even have a frt.
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u/Ov3rReadKn1ght0wl Mar 09 '26
Browning Mark 4s and their counterparts in the Benelli R1 are definitely many cuts above their Canadian or Turkish counterparts. I'd argue the extra $400 is a small buy-once-cry-once price difference.