BioAmmo issues

[u/RDasher3333]

Brought these shells to the range to try them out. As you can see the hull ripped open and the brass is dimpled out. I shot 5 of these and they all look the same. Did any of you guys ever have this happen to you?

I assume they’re unsafe and I’ll throw them away but I’ve never seen brass deform like this it’s kind of crazy

[u/HappyCan7250]

I like the idea, biodegradable wads and casings? Of course it's good practice and everyone should be picking up their shells, but they still end up going somewhere, and of course a few sometimes get missed. 

I also wish someone would come up with biodegradable pigeons/clay. Despite them being clay, they don't really ever break down. Lots of spots in the forest are covered in chunks of orange clays that will be there for decades, and it looks like crap. I would love to see some biodegradable ones that break down after a couple months since it's basically impossible to clean up clays when shooting on crown land, seems like they would be pretty easy to make too.

[u/draftstone → u/HappyCan7250]

Just for your information, clay pigeons are not made of clay. It is a composition of tar pitch and limestone (like 75% limestone powder and 25% tar pitch to hold it together). This is why they are that black and feel "plasticky" to the touch, while being brittle and can be stored for years. This is why they don't biodegrade, tar pitch takes years to degrade. They are supposed to be safe for the environnement, but wildlife can get sick if they eat it, this is why on most boxes it says that you should never use clay pigeon near livestock farming.

[u/RDasher3333 → u/HappyCan7250]

I agree, that’s why I picked them up. Any ideas on how to get rid of the rest of them? Do I cut them up and throw them in the garbage?

[u/Boattailfmj → u/HappyCan7250]

I've found maybe 30% of my wads when I used to go innawoods shooting. Would totally use biodegradable ones if I was to do it again. I did use steel shot, felt guilty about launching pounds of lead into nature.

[u/waitwhatnothing → u/Boattailfmj]

One of the problems with steel shot is that it requires a plastic wad to keep the shot from touching the barrel and damaging it. This bioammo uses a supposedly biodegradable plastic wad. 

Lead shot and bismuth shot can use old fashioned fiber wads, but won’t pattern as tight as modern plastic wads. Federal has some lead loads with fiber wads marketed for upland hunting and clay shooting. 

[u/CAFirearmSociety]

So they are shooting and cycling just fine, but the hull and brass looks messed up after extraction? Personally I would still shoot them.

[u/Parking_Media]

Guessing you shot them out of a semi - looks like pretty violent extraction

[u/RDasher3333 → u/Parking_Media]

Correct, but none of the different brands I tried out had any markings on the brass. I’m thinking the hull ballooned out in the chamber and the extractor ripped it out of there

[u/RDasher3333 → u/[deleted]]

BioAmmo is the company. The box was on sale for 15$, the guy at the counter said no one ever bought them so I gave it a try…

[u/waitwhatnothing → u/RDasher3333]

I’d see what the ammo manufacturer has to say, they might have some insight. I wonder if the plastic case isn’t stable long term depending on temp/humidity etc. ? Could have been in the store for a while since it was on sale.