r/canadaguns • u/SurtseyHuginn • Sep 30 '25

Looking for official sources of data and critics of the Federal Confiscation / Buyback Program (RCMP, Police Associations, Experts, etc.)

Hey everyone,

I am writing to my liberal MP (in Montreal, no less!) to push against the confiscation program, and I want to build my argument using credible, non-partisan sources like law enforcement, government agencies, or independent experts.

While tweets or statements from groups like this from the CCFR are a good starting point and are accurate most of the time , they are viewed as biased, especially to a Liberal MP from Montréal.

So I’m hoping for your help to compile data and testimony from sources that are harder for them to dismiss, such as:

  • RCMP statements or internal reports expressing skepticism about the program’s effectiveness
  • Police associations (Toronto Police Association, Ontario Association of Chiefs of Police, etc.) who have said public safety resources would be better spent elsewhere / that the program is useless
  • Border services or CBSA testimonies about smuggling being the real problem
  • Parliamentary committee reports (SECU, Senate, Auditor General, etc.) showing that crime guns are mostly smuggled or stolen
  • StatsCan data showing the low involvement of legally-owned rifles/shotguns in violent crime
  • Criminologists, academics, or public safety experts who have criticized buybacks as ineffective

Don't hesitate to share your links on quotes, transcripts, or screenshots . Even short excerpts or directions like “Check page X of report Y” would help a lot.

Some example I am currently using :

- Secu report, there is a lot of BS spewed by marco mendicino, PolySeSouviens etcbut there are very relevant testimonies from the toronto deputy chief and PhDs.

https://www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Committee/441/SECU/Reports/RP11706338/securp03/securp03-e.pdf

- Effect of firearms legislation on suicide and homicide in Canada from 1981 to 2016 : No correlation between firearm homicides and legislation : https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7302582/

- In more recent news this tweet from the CCFR with the cross examination of RCMP and TPA officials :

https://x.com/CCFR_CCDAF/status/1971350857687106028

I am still looking for the official transcript in the government website.

Once I’ve gathered enough material, I’ll format it into a clean reference list that I will share so that others can reuse when writing to their MPs.

Thanks in advance.

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u/Lumindan Sep 30 '25

This was presented to the Standing Committee on Public Safety in the House of Commons: https://www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Committee/441/SECU/Brief/BR12290487/br-external/LangmannCaillin-e.pdf

A recent article that is well sourced and has what you're looking for: https://medium.com/@elisshui/statistics-vs-politics-rethinking-canadas-firearm-policies-136a9d15c562

International study showing no impact of gun bans on homicide rates https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26905895/

The government is intentionally misleading the public by attacking legal firearm owners: https://bcwf.bc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/BCWF-Response-to-Federal-Engagement-%E2%80%93-an-examination-of-a-ban-on-handguns-and-assault-weapons-in-Canada-.pdf

US-based study showing Canada's existing strong licensing laws reduces homicide rates. No impact to homicide for gun bans: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27842178/

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u/carasci Oct 01 '25

I've got to admit, the fact that Mr. Mauser is one of our leading firearms experts is some hilarious nominative determinism.

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u/131094 Sep 30 '25 edited Oct 01 '25

I have a paper I wrote for a course in my Master's about the OIC from 2020 and a lot of the citations and sources I use would answer your questions and provide those stats. Want me to send you a copy? I got an A on it so it was a solid piece of writing.

Edit: I think this link works? https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/45onhvc9ey1i8y9e7wws0/Order-in-Council-SOR-2020-96-1.docx?rlkey=3xnnop17x8sik9j99idsht1za&st=otif6uhn&dl=0

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u/Content_Sky_2676 Oct 01 '25

Can you do a download only cloud link for it? I was just thinking I need too dig up some sources

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u/Content_Sky_2676 Oct 01 '25

Looks like it got flagged right away - I sent you a message

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u/Flaky_Process_3780 Sep 30 '25

Hey I would love to do the same also from Montreal - please loop me in if you could

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u/Disclosjer Oct 01 '25

You should just share the entire letter on here so others can change names and use it to send to their MPs.

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u/WearifulSole Oct 01 '25

I'm in BC, if you share your letter with me once it's finished I'll send it to my MP as well, and I know a number of others who will do the same.

Thanks for putting in the hard work.