r/canadaguns BC Sep 18 '24

Guide to borrowing and lending handguns

Posting this since I posted a comment under a thread and it seems like a lot of people were unaware of this.

TL;DR : You can legally lend and borrow a handgun if you have a valid current RPAL for up to 6 months (in most provinces). You can also lend it across to participating provinces. The 6 months is renewable so for longer periods you just need to call the CFO beforehand to extend/renew the ATT, no need to ship back and forth.

Note : Durations, validity, and terms of the ATT may vary between provinces. Double check before proceeding.

Example : I have a buddy in ON, and I'm in BC. I call the BC CFO to let them know, and I'll call the OCFO to let them know as well. My buddy's ATT will be issued under OCFO, and that's who they will need to call to obtain it.

The process is very straightforward and easy:

1) The owner/borrower calls the provincial CFO (not the CFP) with the details of the borrower (PAL/Contact/Address), the details of the firearm (registration or serial number), and intended duration. Range membership may be required depending on province, Silvercore will work in a pinch.

  • It's nice to be able to have both parties conference call the CFO, especially with wait times, inconsistent opening hours, and just avoids back-and-forth if something comes up.

2) The borrower calls the CFO to obtain the ATT. Do note, depending on logistics, there may be multiple ATTs needed here that may not be covered under the owner's ATT.

  • Such examples would be to take it to the post office for shipping/transport to the borrower, borrower needs an ATT to take it to the range (this should be issued but verify), borrower may need an ATT to send it back, taking it to each other's houses, etc.

  • You can/will get an ATT for the range, no need to call each time you want to go to the range. Just ask

3) Follow all storage/transport laws and mail the handgun AND the registration certificate (for that firearm) along with it. Do note it may be ideal to ask (the CFP/CFO) for another copy of the registration certificate, or make a copy of your own.

There may be a few things I missed here and there but that's the gist of it. If you're thinking of doing this as a rental service, don't. Someone else already tried and they decided the juice wasn't worth the squeeze legally. There's also a concern of operating in a commercial sense as well, then you'd need a business license.

Another thing of note is that if you are shipping a firearm marked as a reciever/frame only, or need to change the barrel, it's probably easier to have the firearm in its final configuration, the CFP notified of the change, and then lend it out. Otherwise, I'm not sure about the legalities of having the borrower change the configuration stated on the registration certificate.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

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u/drain-angel BC Sep 18 '24

Nice to know the BC CFO extended it. OCFO though still had 6 months (as of 2 weeks ago).

It could vary from province to province, so it's pertinent to check.

Next, the CFO can add a permanent ATT on the license for carry to and from any range in the province.

In my experience so far the CFOs only granted it in conjunction with the storage/"borrowing" ATT that will be issued. If it's permanent, then yes. So you can get a 6 month range ATT as well IIRC

Noted on the copy of the registration certificate - edited

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u/goshathegreat Sep 18 '24

This is good to know.

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u/HWNubs Sep 18 '24

My impression is that I would not need a ATT to the range but is this true only if i owned the gun?

Now the big question is, who will lend it and hassle with getting you a ATT to bring to the range each time you want to go?

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u/drain-angel BC Sep 18 '24

You can get a 2nd ATT that will be valid for 6 months to take to/from the range on top. Post edited for clarity.

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u/Murky-Importance-171 Dec 04 '24

hlo guys its good to know about borrowing and i just have quick question do i need to submit form application for borrowing or me and lender should just call cfo we r in bc

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u/Boebus666 Feb 17 '25

Contact them and they'll send you a form that you need to fill out and send back. They will then get in touch with both parties involved and confirm the borrowing. Could take up to 2 weeks for it to process. Howdy from Lower Mainland!

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u/soundssarcastic bc Sep 18 '24

Relevant question: is a call required if the handgun is my spouses and Im just taking it to the range for the day?

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

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u/soundssarcastic bc Sep 18 '24

So is that just without her coming with me?

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u/Bhangpeeni Sep 18 '24

If she comes with you her ATT is being used to transport the handgun. You cannot take it yourself. You can call the CFO office and get a ATT to transport her handgun, which will allow you to do so on your own. Easiest way is to call the cfo with your wife and get both ends done in the same call.

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u/soundssarcastic bc Sep 18 '24

So much work for a 22lr revolver xD

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u/drain-angel BC Sep 18 '24

Yes unless they're coming with you.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '24

This is way more detail than At the gun range Friend one :wanna try this 9mm cz shadow Friends two : sure

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u/FarCan420 Sep 19 '24

Do you know if I can do this in Nova Scotia?

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u/drain-angel BC Sep 19 '24

Call the NS CFO and ask

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '24

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u/drain-angel BC Nov 12 '24

It was a retail store that tried it. Forgot their name

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '24

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u/drain-angel BC Nov 13 '24

I don't know why they abandoned the project but if I had to speculate I would wager the cops/insurance/their lawyers weren't to happy about them shipping guns to people they've never seen before across provincial borders with no control of the custody of it and the risk it'll go to someone straw purchasing it