r/canadaguns • u/captlevasseur • May 26 '23
Crusader Arms Templar - trigger pins may work themselves loose
Heads up for any other Templar owners out there to keep an eye on the trigger pins. Similar to the MCR, they will work themselves loose. This was after about 500 rds through mine, and I only noticed it when cleaning. Lost the one pin, and the other was on its way out as well. I have the MCR locking pins, but they are too big for the Templar and stick out about a quarter of an inch (although it will work for now, just looks stupid)
Lets see how good the customer service is at Crusader Arms.
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u/captlevasseur May 26 '23
Very quick response from Crusader Arms service department and they are shipping me out some new pins.
I don't believe there are any "anti-walk" pins available yet for this rifle. But I will definitely be checking the tension screws on the trigger pack.
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u/barthammer May 26 '23
Following... I never lost a pin, but I did have the rear one walk out a bit on me and I was able to smack it back in before anything was lost.
Will have to check for a tension screw when I get home tonight.
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u/MacPapRonin May 27 '23
If either you or u/captlevasseur figure out how to access/check the tensioning screws, let me know. I took a very cursory glace at the trigger group as it was installed in my Crusader 9 and I couldn't quickly determine how to access them, though it appeared it would be to insert a long screwdriver into the holes on either side of the trigger weight adjustment hex screw - the holes are marked "snug".
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u/barthammer May 29 '23
I found the same as you. I could only easily access the right-most "snug" hole, as the left one has the bolt release assembly that interferes with access to it. Since some people have had issues with the clip holding that assembly in place, I didn't want to remove it and create an issue for myself just to look at a screw.
I also checked the trigger tech installation guide for this style trigger, and those appear to be the only screws to tighten down during installation. I'm not sure if these are the ones in question as I don't really see how they would interact with the pins at all. I may be wrong though.
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u/MacPapRonin May 29 '23 edited May 29 '23
Looking at the manual from TriggerTech, I think (?) that the tensioning screws "pull" the whole trigger group assembly "down" slightly so that the trigger group housing puts downward pressure on the pins, holding them in place by pressure. The "snug" hex heads take a 1/16" Allen key, apparently.
I'm not a gunsmith, and I don't have much experience in disassembling firearms - just looking at it from a "interpreting the diagram" and reading the instructions point of view, I get the sense that's what's happening.
Having removed and reassembled the bolt catch lever three times now, it's not too difficult a procedure. Just make sure you don't lose the e-clip. It's a very odd size. The process for removing the catch is in the Templar manual, here:
https://www.crusaderarms.ca/manual-download
I'm not going to touch it until the trigger pins appear to be an issue, but if I do, I'll put the process in the maintenance thread.
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u/captlevasseur May 27 '23
Those are the two I believe and they require an allen wrench to adjust (very small one, not sure of the exact size).
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u/captlevasseur May 27 '23
I just watched the review on the new thread for the Templar. The gun he is reviewing has anti-walk pins installed. Now to try and find them online.
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u/captlevasseur May 27 '23
And I feel really stupid. Crusader Arms website specifically states the gun will take standard AR15 trigger pins. So if you want to get anti-walk pins..anything that works for AR15 will work for the Templar.
https://truenortharms.com/ar15_default_store_view/anti-rotation-trigger-hammer-pin-set.html
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u/MacPapRonin May 26 '23
Good information to know - I'll add it to the thread I have on Templar/Crusader 9 maintenance. Can you please confirm whether you have the milspec trigger or the TriggerTech upgrade?