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Copied and pasted this because I feel like it's worth restating. Last week was great but our community needs to start pushing hard with this momentum and settling for scraps won't cut it.

1) Being happy with pre 2020 conditions, or preserving the status quo in all aspects needs to stop. Firearms needs to be seen as a right, or at least so prevalent in Canadian culture that it can't be used as a scapegoat. It's only a matter of time until C21 2.0 arrives.

2) Sports shooting, sporting rifle, etc is language that needs to be avoided. It creates a low ceiling and shaky ground for gun owners to argue in and around. Haybinger949 said it best:

"Yeah, imagine being actively targeted and vilified by almost every federal political party and media agency for the better part of 50 years and thinking your best defense is to willingly categorize yourself as no different than something as superfluous as someone who collects matchbox cars or plays frisbee golf".

Point is, it looks ridiculous when all we do is say "loog at us :DDD"

3) Overall, gun owners need to shift the culture from a hobby / casual past time to a lifestyle and everything else that comes with it.

E: I forgot to add but continuing down the sports shooting narrative will eventually paywall us and make gun culture here exclusive to rich old people similar to how it is in some euro countries. I think we're already seeing it with the NDP being pro-handgun ban except for "high level" sports shooting and ultimately pro-AR15 ban.

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1) so either change the culture or get us as close to a 2A as possible. As I said in a previous reply, I do not understand why treating sports shooting as the absolute limit to gun ownership here is seen as the only way to go about things when it literally led us to the OIC and C21

2) changing and winning hearts and minds

3) already have been. CCFR, NFA and all the rest have been doing a decent job. As I said in a previous reply, we have police chiefs and academics doing this for us too

4) good. As you should

5) here we go with this single issue voter bs thrown in. As I said in a previous reply guns represent a lot more than just sports and treating them as ONLY a hobby is why we're in this mess

6) so you almost see my point. Appeasing the government is idiotic and treating guns as something I can casually pick up and put down without a care in the world = nonstop bs. If the community by and large doesn't take itself seriously the govt sure as hell won't

7) yes but sports shooting should not be the ceiling of gun rights otherwise it will be treated as a bullshit hobby, which it's not. People carry guns professionally, to protect themselves out in the middle of nowhere and as a means to protect themselves if things ever get weird

8) correct. I've done it before but it's fair to say that some people will forever remain single celled organisms

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1) again, changing hearts and minds. Stop thinking the same arguments used to prop us up for the past 50+ years is going to work when it literally didn't. Otherwise we wouldn't have to worry about OICs.

2) again, changing hearts and minds

3) who did you vote for? All of what you mentioned have seen no progress under the current government. That and I don't give a shit about any of that, we're in a gun dedicated subreddit

4) what common ground is there to make? We've been on the backpedal for longer than 90% of us have been alive and there are no good arguments to support any of the bans seen the past several decades

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1) Nothing. I don't own any firearms, haven't touched one and I'm an orphaned Armenian boy stranded in Iraq

2) as I said in my original post, treating sports shooting as the upper limit of gun ownership literally got us to the 2020 OIC, handgun freeze and almost triple fucked us with the semi auto ban. How do you not connect these dots?

3) answer my question. What common ground is there to make if we've been on the back pedal for over 50 years? How many more concessions and compromise needs to be made?

4) who did you vote for?