That’s the craziest part, criminals got reduced to no sentencing, bail is now guaranteed even for violent offenders but law abiding gun owners (huge portion is police and military) are the ones looking at 10 years in prison.
Not to mention eroding national unity with 2.5 million Canadians because the system baked in ripping them off. The lpc is a greater threat to canada than the Americans.
The fact that the gun buy back bill and a bill reducing sentencing for multiple crimes done with an illegal firearm were passed in the same week is one of those things that makes my brain hurt.
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Oh i absolutely do and complete agree with your statement above.
For centuries liberals create the problems (conditions) for societal changes... after a bunch of people DIE... conservative pragmatism come back and try to legislate a seemingly fair compromise for future liberals to shit all over again in 20 years
That's a new one. Did you know that liberalism began as a reaction to the Catholics & Protestants slaughtering each other all over Europe? Hence separation of private and public sphere. Separation of church and state. And if I had to guess the ones doing the killing were probably more conservative than progressive.
Anyways your whole premise is false. You're still speaking from a paradigm where liberalism = progressivism and therefore in opposition to conservatism. But that's not true. One can have a conservative disposition and still support liberalism.
Also, be honest, by "conservative pragmatism" do you really mean fascism?
And likewise one can have a liberal disposition and support conservatism ( because i have aspirations for my children beyond....nothing, just nothing man)
"Did you know that liberalism began as a reaction to the Catholics & Protestants slaughtering each other all over Europe? Hence separation of private and public sphere."
Enlightenment-era propaganda. Nearly 3 centuries later and Voltaire is still racking in those gullible idiots. Fascinating.
Legal gun owners have an all crime probability rate that is half that of the average population. Statistically legal gun owners are the safest people in the country.
That's cause the goal is to disarm the people who would fight back. I'm not disagreeing with that, I'm pointing out that legal owners are the safest people in the country.
Look at it this way; if I go out to get a class 1 driving licence to drive semis, I am definitely going to be more cautious about breaking traffic laws because that's now a $10k license.
Would you rather be driving beside someone that can't see their wing mirrors through the trash in the front seat, or a commercial driver off-duty?
I think you have this notion that the government's interested in some ill-defined notion of public safety. No. They want the populace disarmed and controlled so that they won't have opposition to their rule. That is why they go after the people who've told them they are armed. To say anything else is to believe in over-complicated conspiracy theories.
I'm saying legal gun owners have more respect for the laws surrounding firearms because they have more on the line. They are less likely to commit violent crimes because it means they will likely lose their collection; making them a "safer group".
If it said fascism is a mental illness would you say the same thing?
Centralist, or slight leans either way, are the only political models that fucking even remotely make sense. And Trudeau/poly were/are VERY much not even fucking close to center.
And to make it clear because people tend to be unable to read coherently and discuss politics at the same time (blinded by random rage?): the far right is bad also.
Holy fuck you must be an Olympic long jumper! Cause that’s a CRAZY giant leap you just took.
I am making no such equation, I simply asked if you would have said the same thing if it was about fascism. What if it was communism instead, if that makes you happier?
The point is far left and far right politics make no sense in the real world in either case, and to be completely honest, if you think one or the other would work out, maybe mentally ill is an apt term.
No you’re just making a clear point to reach as far as possible outside the scope of what we are talking about and you know it. But keep trying to play games, goofy.
I never said anything about one of them working. My entire point is OP claimed people who don’t think like them are mentally ill. That’s just plain stupid. But keep dancing around the point all you want.
And all I said is that far left liberalism is mentally ill, just like how the far right is as well. I would've thought that was fucking ABUNDANTLY clear by now, but evidently not.
I was clearly talking about anybody that thinks differently. Nobody said anything about far left or right yet you came in arguing. Learn to read next time. Have a good day.
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